Xeen 16mm T2.6 – Samyang Further Expands Cine Lens Lineup

Samyang has been quite busy lately. Among other mostly photo-related lens announcements, they have just unveiled the newest addition to their cinema lens line-up: the Xeen 16mm T2.6.

The Xeen 16mm T2.6 Cine Lens

Samyang keeps adding lenses to their current Xeen cinema lens line-up, with their newest addition just unveiled at this year’s Photokina. Sitting in between the 14mm T3.1 and the 24mm T1.5, the new Xeen 16mm T2.6 could become your new favourite wide angle lens. Due to its faster aperture, it might also prove to be much more versatile than the 14mm T3.1 option.

Xeen 16mm

Samyang’s Jeon Min, Shin claims that the decision behind introducing a model with these specs is that the former wide angle option, the Xeen 14mm T3.1, may be just a little bit too wide (and more importantly, too slow) for most cinematographic needs.

This newest addition brings the whole Xeen range of lenses up to a grand total of 7 primes to choose from:

  • 14mm T3.1
  • 16mm T2.6
  • 24mm T1.5
  • 35mm T1.5
  • 50mm T1.5
  • 85mm T1.5
  • 135mm T2.2.

Maybe we’ll even see some more focal lengths to choose from in the future? At this rate of development, this might just be the case.

Xeen 16mm

the Xeen 14mm T3.1 , maybe the new 16mm T2.6 is the better option?

The Xeen range of cine lenses are improved versions of Samyang’s previous line of VDSLR lenses for cine use,  but are enhanced in a variety of ways, such as with newly formulated coatings, a stronger housing and shared aperture and focus gear position. It’s worth mentioning that in the case of this particular lens, it also improves upon its cheaper VDSLR-line version by covering a full-frame imager, rather than being Super35mm-only like its earlier counterpart.

Pricing and availability

The new Xeen 16mm lens will be available at the end of this year, and will be the same price as other Xeen cine primes at around $2,495.  Just as all the others, the Xeen 16mm prime will be available in various mount options, such as Canon EF, PL, MFT, Sony E and Nikon F.

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 thrower thrower
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thrower thrower

8K is 33-36mp, get d810, a7RII or 5dsr. You don’t need to shoot video for resolution, vignetting, flare, distortion, coma and other aberrations test, mr SHIN!
that’s stupidest cope-out.

 Beebee Lestr
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Samyang has now got a full range of prime lenses on offer. Having the full set will now make it more appealing for many DPs.

I have found the picture quality of the Samyang lenses to be excellent. Bokeh particularly nice at 50mm and above.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

I’ve found their picture quality to be utter shit, plagued by pathetic ghosting and softness across the entire image. Looking at footage later, I was trying to figure out why NOTHING was in focus in a few shots, at any distance from the camera. Turns out those were the shots from the Rokinon 35mm.

Look at the samples people have posted in the B&H review of the 35mm.

Don’t ruin your production with this junk. You’re better off using adapted still Canon (or other) lenses, despite the bigger hassle.

 Beebee Lestr
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If your problem was that ‘nothing was in focus’ on the 35mm camera it sounds like operator error.

A manual lens can be difficult to focus using a 35mm DSLR camera, which these days don’t come with any optical focusing aids.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

It doesn’t sound like that, since I said AT ANY DISTANCE FROM THE CAMERA.

And I wasn’t shooting with an SLR; I was shooting on a BMPC 4K with my eye right up to an HD EVF while it was stationary, shooting stationary objects.

 Beebee Lestr
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I’ve never encountered a lens that was always out of focus across all of the image.

I think your problem will end up being the challenge of manual focusing. Try zooming on your viewfinder monitor while focusing.

I recently used Samyang’s 14mm, 50mm and 85mm and was very happy.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. It WASN’T truly out of focus; it’s just A SHITTY LENS.

Did you look at the samples? Here’s the Rokinon 35mm, EF mount, spoon-fed:comment image

And here: Different user, another copy of the same lens, same shitty ghosting:comment image

Amir Come Here
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That does NOT look like a Xeen. It looks like a Rokinon photo or cine lens.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. It WASN’T truly out of focus; it’s just A SHITTY LENS.

Did you look at the samples?

Amir Come Here
Member

I was going to say the same exact thing. Own 24, 35 and 135 and never had problems with their resolving power @ 4K raw, prores or h.264.
Shane Hurlbut reviews a few of these lenses and supposedly the shabby one is 24 but he may have had a bad one, because mine works great against flares, wide open.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

Well, you have multiple users posting samples from the 35mm, and they’re all very poor.

 Beebee Lestr
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You can also see multiple users here – who actually own the lenses – that are very happy.

As I said, you probably need to practice manual focusing. Samyang Xeen lenses are not out of focus across the whole picture.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

As I said, this has nothing to do with focusing. I question your photographic knowledge if you think that nothing in a frame being sharp (when every distance is represented in the image from close-up to infinity) is a focusing problem.

If you know otherwise, please explain to us how a user focusing error can render objects at every distance from the camera out of focus.

 Beebee Lestr
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I’ve never encountered a lens that remains out of focus across its entire focal range.

Never! It would have to be either a damaged lens or user focus difficulties.

Manual focusing is more difficult on modern electronic cameras, as the viewfinders don’t have the focusing aids that film cameras did.

I suggest you use an electronic viewfinder that has a focus assist mode that can enlarge the picture

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

As I said, this has nothing to do with focusing.

But you continue to assert that this COULD be caused by “user focus difficulties,” but you don’t say how.

How could “user focus difficulties” result in an image that contains objects from close-up to infinity, but NONE of them is in focus?

Amir Come Here
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Just shot with 24 and 35 last night. still have no issues.
Here’s something to try to see if it’s user error or a bad apple:
1) Print out a focus calibration sheet and go through the whole focus distance, and since you have a 200 degree focus throw, go through it within 5 seconds on the printed calibration sheet.
2) have you taken a look at your diopter? Have you used an auto focus lens to focus on something easy via autofocus, look in your viewfinder, fix your diopter to match your eye sight, take off that lens and put a Xeen on and then go through testing subjects?
If so, then you have successfully found out if
A) you have gone through fixing error issue and/or
B) you have a lemon version and you CANNOT say ALL Xeen lenses are like that.
I can prove to you that I don’t have that problem. Tell me what setting you want me to shoot and I will show you it’s not ALL Xeen 35mm that you find to be whatever you said in your original thread.

Amir Come Here
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Here is a sample without editing anything and it was shot in horrible Sony jpeg. A7s2 with 35mm Xeen, wide open aperture, 1000 ISO, 1/40 shutter speed, so that can even give me shaky result, but I just wanted to quickly fire off a shot for a viewing.
So here is one person in the world with a satisfied 35mm Xeen.
https://flic.kr/p/QJ7ijs

 Beebee Lestr
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Thanks for the image, Amir.

Everyone can see that the Xeen logo is sharply focused. The other nice quality about these lenses is the beautiful bokeh, even at 35mm focal length.

Amir Come Here
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You’re welcome. Happy New Year. The OOF areas on a 35mm look really good. I can’t wait for the 16mm for I gather they’ll continue to make solid quality optics for the best price in the market.
Cheers!

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

OK, thanks for the effort, but that shot doesn’t prove anything. There are no areas of high contrast, with a bright object in front of a darker background.

And the diopter idea doesn’t make sense. The diopter doesn’t affect THE RECORDED IMAGE.

Did you look at the samples I linked to? Those are multiple users with the same ghosting and flaring from DIFFERENT copies of the lens.

 Beebee Lestr
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Palmer, you’re polluting the forum with garbage.

I don’t believe you’ve ever used any Xeen lens, let alone this one. Comparing reflection/ghosting with a much older model Rokinon is irrelevant, as they have different coatings.

If you used Xeen lenses, and posted your own Xeen images for us to evaluate, you’d get more respect from other users. If you’re not a Xeen user then you should stop your bashing of a product you’ve never used.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

Yeah, right. I was responding to YOUR statement, since you think we can’t just scroll up: “I have found the picture quality of the Samyang lenses to be excellent.”

Well, I haven’t, and I posted links to others who haven’t either.

I don’t really care if I have the “respect” of people who display gross ignorance of basic optical and photographic fact.

Amir Come Here
Member

If you say the diopter does not affect the recorded image, you are delusional. It is an asinine statement or you need to find out what a diopter is in the scheme of focusing.
I did look at your samples, hence making my comment. I don’t just pull answers out of my butt. Please prove you have a Xeen lens and I will discuss with you further. Otherwise, you are polluting the forum as Beebee mentioned.
And to top it off, I stated what conditions you want and I will prove to you that again, you’re making a ridiculous generalized statement about Xeen lenses. I trust Shane Hurlbut’s words and he is an ASC certified cinematographer and he has nothing to say about the lens the way you have. I will unsubscribe from this thread because it is a waste of time, since I tried to tell you, you either are doing something wrong or you got a lemon. Good day.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

Anyone who thinks a diopter affects the recorded image is too ignorant to weigh in on lens quality. And, as I just pointed out, I responded to a post about SAMYANG lenses. I never said I used a Xeen lens.

And you continue to ignore the multiple samples from more than one user that show the same image defects from different copies of the 35mm.

Nobody needs more mindless cheerleading for products on the Internet. And nobody needs more crybabies lashing out when their pet product is criticized. Rise above cognitive dissonance.

Amir Come Here
Member

Why the hell are you in a Xeen forum talking nonsense. A true moron.

Palmer Woodrow
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Palmer Woodrow

The moron is the guy who keeps ignoring the subject of the thread.

Especially after I JUST POINTED IT OUT. See the quote?

Here it is again: “I have found the picture quality of the Samyang lenses to be excellent”

Did you miss it? Here it is again:

“I have found the picture quality of the Samyang lenses to be excellent”

Did you get it that time? Here:
“I have found the picture quality of the Samyang lenses to be excellent”

If you still didn’t get it, reload your page and start again.

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