The Best 4K Recorder? Video Devices PIX-E5 vs. Atomos Shogun

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Earlier this week we reviewed the new Video Devices PIX-E5. A new 4K disk recorder with a compact form factor and high resolution 1080p display. We had some good things to say about it (Check out the review HERE), but I really wanted to see how it actually compares to its main contender, the Atomos Shogun.

The Atomos Shogun has been around for almost a year, but still offers some of the best and most affordable solutions as a 4K SDI / HDMI recorder. Both external recorders on display here are great products. Let’s see what happens when we put them head to head.

Video Devices PIX-E5 vs. Atomos Shogun

Internal 4K recording is getting more and more common as new cameras roll out. Just recently Sony stepped up the game with the new Sony A7RII. But SDI / HDMI recorders offer some added benefits that many don’t want to miss. Monitoring and exposure guides, quality codecs and the added backup workflow are just a few of the good things they offer. This might just be the reason why we still see more and more external recorders coming our way. Here are some of the main differences between the Video Devices PIX-E5 vs. Atomos Shogun.

Size

The Atomos Shogun is quite a big accessory on a small Sony A7s mirrorless camera or Panasonic GH4. Its large 7″ screen is not always ideal for smaller rigs and smaller cameras. This is one of the biggest advantages of the Video Devices PIX-E5. It has a 1080p resolution screen, similar to the Shogun’s 1920×1200 screen, but offers a smaller display size and form factor.

On a bigger camera the story is different. The larger screen estate on the Atomos Shogun is convenient and offers a great preview image and lots of space for overlays.

So in terms of size the PIX-E5 is great as it’s the smallest 4K recorder at the moment which is convenient for smaller rigs and cameras.

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Weight

I compared the weight of both devices. With a small NP-F battery attached the PIX-E5 weighs roughly 600g and the Shogun 700g. So the PIX-E5 is a bit lighter, but not by much.

What I liked on the PIX-E is that the weight is evenly distributed, so once there are two batteries attached balance is pretty centered. On the Shogun when a battery is attached its weight balance is a little off and I noticed that this makes it a little less convenient to use in practice.

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Battery Life

I made a 4K recording on the same small NP-F 570 battery with each recorder and found that the Atomos Shogun could go for 48 minutes while the Video Devices PIX-E5 only managed to record 35 minutes on a single battery.

It’s good to see that the device with the larger, brighter screen actually runs longer and 48 minutes on such a small charge is a lot. I think both disk recorders perform well in this regard, but the Shogun definitely wins.

One must mention that the second battery slot on the PIX-E5 is an added convenience. Once the battery runs out on the Shogun there’s no way to flip batteries in the middle of the recording like on the PIX-E’s.

The Fan

Another main difference that you can’t present in a chart is the behaviour of the internal fan.

I recorded the fan noise of both devices with a microphone from the same distance. This was not a scientific test but gave me a more objective view on the difference in noise levels.

The fan of the Video Devices PIX-E5 is off during recording. However when the device gets too hot the fan automatically turns on. This happened about 15 minutes into a continuous 4K recording during my tests, indoors on a warm day in summer. In most situations the fan will probably not kick in. When it does it is 30% less loud than the Shogun’s fan.

The Shogun’s fan has a low noise level at the beginning, but at one point into recording or stand-by it usually gets fairly loud. It is 30% louder than the PIX-E5’s fan noise.

Recording

The big plus of the Atomos Shogun is that it can record the feed from the Sony FS7 and FS700 12-bit RAW output via SDI. The PIX-E5 cannot do that at this time, nor can it record 4K from an SDI source at all.

The Atomos Shogun also lets you record to the Avid DNxHD codec.

Another advantage is that the Shogun offers rec-trigger via HDMI which can be very convenient. On the Sony A7s this also works when you don’t record internally. In other words recording on the Shogun can be started via the rec-button on the camera.

The PIX-E5 now also features rec-trigger with the newest firmware.

In terms of recording functionality and overall software features the Shogun clearly is a more mature product at this time. Both companies are usually eager to push new features via firmware.

To be fair one must point out that the Video Devices PIX-E5 only just hit the market this week, so in a few months time the missing features could or could not be implemented via firmware updates and the comparison between Video Devices PIX-E5 vs. Atomos Shogun could look different.

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Ergonomics & Build Quality

The last major difference between the two devices that I would like to point out is ergonomics and build quality. In our review we already looked at the PIX-E5’s ergonomics and build quality and found it is an outstanding product in that regard. Especially the the idea and integration of the SATA / USB 3.0 media caddy is something that caught our attention which we described in detail here.

The die-cast metal chassis of the PIX-E5 is robust and all parts, connectors, buttons, battery and media sit securely in place. The device is easy to use via several dedicated buttons, a jog wheel and the touch screen. It’s obvious that Sound Devices, the company behind the Pix-E and their brand “Video Devices”, clearly has a lot of experience in creating robust in-the-field technology from the production of pro sound gear for decades already.

The Atomos Shogun certainly feels less rugged. Its chassis is made of plastic, the battery doesn’t sit as tightly as on the PIX-E5 and the on/off button and AC input seem a bit fragile. In that regard the Shogun is not as robust. If you really need a device that is as robust as the PIX-E5 is up for you to decide. For rentals it is certainly more suited.

The ergonomics of the Shogun and PIX are hard to compare. The Atomos Shogun is a touch-screen only device and as such a little less easy to use (no tactile feedback) but on the other hand in terms of its software it is fast, responsive and has a great operating system that is more advanced than the PIX-E’s.

The fact that the Shogun has rec-trigger via HDMI makes a big difference and makes it easier to use in the field and the (Update: The PIX-E5 now also features rec-trigger with the newest firmware.) smooth, well designed overlay infos like histogram, false-color, zebra, peaking, waveform, vectorscope are much nicer than on the PIX-E5 where they are available but the jittery motion can be a bit irritating.

In summary the Atomos Shogun seems better on the inside while the Video Devices PIX-E5 seems better on the outside.

Cost for a Working Package

Video Devices PIX-E5

As mentioned in our PIX-E5 review the device can be bought as a standalone unit without any accessories for $1,395. This is the way to get the most affordable package. Additionally you could get the following as a minimum configuration to save some cash:

This package costs $393 on top of the recorder itself. In total this minimum package together with the Video Devices PIX-E5 costs $1,788.

Atomos Shogun

The Atomos Shogun can also be acquired as a standalone product. The Shogun Bare Bones Version costs $1.695. Here’s a similar basic configuration:

Note: The Shogun Barebones comes with one SSD caddy. Also in the box is a soft-shell case, so no additional case is needed.

In total this minimum package together with the Atomos Shogun Bare Bones costs $1,922.

The price difference between the two devices might seem significant on first sight, but with essential accessories and media factored in the Atomos Shogun is only $134 more expensive.

Convergent Design Odyssey 7Q+

For the sake of comprehensiveness let’s also take a look at the Odyssey 7Q+. It’s the third SDI disk recorder that competes with the other two mentioned above and has by far the most potent functionality offering 240 fps capture on the Sony FS cameras. Here’s a similar basic configuration for the Odyssey:

Without the RAW bundle, that unlocks Sony FS RAW recording and 240fps the Convergent Design Odyssey 7Q+ costs $2,639 as a basic configuration. So clearly it is less affordable and in a different league than the other two recorders.

Detailed Comparison

Aside from those main differences here’s a breakdown of other important features on both disk recorders:

Video Devices PIX-E5Atomos Shogun
Screen Size (brightness)5" IPS (500 nits)7.1" IPS (400 nits)
Weight (inc. battery)600g700g
Battery Life (NP-F 570)35min48min
Fan Noiseinitially silent / 30% more quietinitially low / 30% louder
HDMI Recording FormatsUHD & 4K up to 30 fpsUHD up to 30 fps
SDI Recording FormatsHD up to 60 fps, no UHD or 4K via SDIHD up to 120 fps, UHD & 4K up to 30 fps
CodecsApple ProRes Proxy, ..., ProRes 4444 XQ (8bit - 12bit)Apple ProRes LT, ..., ProRes 422 HQ (8bit - 10bit), Avid DNxHD
Sony FS 12bit RAW recordingnoyes (to 10bit ProRes)
UHD via A7s & GH4yesyes
120fps Slow Motion on a7Syesyes
Audioup to 8 tracks (96kHz 24-bit)up to 12 tracks (96kHz 24-bit)
rec trigger via HDMIyesyes
custom LUT supportyesyes
hardware calibrationcoming later this yearyes
Anamorphic de-squeezenoyes
Timecodeno GenLock (Embedded TC via SDI)GenLock
Additional Software FeaturesNot Much (First Generation Firmware)Lots of Features (Mature Firmware)

Conclusion

It is hard to prefer one recorder over the other which I think is actually a good thing. At this time the Atomos Shogun offers some essential features that are still missing on the Video Devices PIX-E5 and has better software with faster processing power. Only the Convergent Design 7Q+ which is an even more complete, but also more expensive solution can match the Shogun’s set of essential recording features.

On the other hand the PIX-E5 has a better build quality and is more compact and rugged than the Shogun. It is hard to say which (recording-) features will come to the PIX-E5 as they usually don’t disclose firmware roadmaps.

I think (and I’m usually very critical in my reviews) both devices are really great and powerful considering their affordable price-point. Each has its own weaknesses and strengths. If the Video Devices PIX-E5 has all the features you require I’d say go for it, but if you need some of the advanced features the Shogun offers, if good monitoring overlays or Sony FS recording functionality in 4K is what you need then the Shogun is probably the better choice at this time.

As for Sony A7s and GH4 4K (UHD) recording the PIX seems like a great choice. but rec-trigger via HDMI is a much needed feature and the lack of it makes it a hassle to use in the field. I hope this feature will come via firmware very soon.
(Update: The PIX-E5 now also features rec-trigger with the newest firmware.)

It’s great to see these two companies competing and looking at firmware updates we see both push hard to make their devices better and better every month. Video Devices have released 3 new firmware updates in just a month after release and Atomos has a roadmap laid out for the Shogun with more intriguing features on the way.

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Wes Sturdevant Reply
Wes Sturdevant August 28, 2015

Thanks for the great comparison.

I realize that audio recording was not in the scope of this comparison. But if I have my facts right, the Shogun has a breakout cable solution with XLR inputs that is available now. The announced PIX-LR will allow XLR inputs for the PIX-E series, but it will be an optional additional purchase and has yet to be released.

I’ll be curious to see what folks think of the PIX-LR once it comes out. I find it pretty compelling based on what I have seen so far.

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber August 29, 2015

Indeed the review got a lot more extensive than I initially planned so I decided to skip the additional audio accessories altogether.

Jan Hermann von Bayern Reply
Jan Hermann von Bayern August 28, 2015

The 7Q is so superior to these two recorders that it’s worth the extra money.
These are my favorite reasons:
240fps CONTINOUS recording in RAW and ProResHQ (inHD)
120fps 4K RAW (burst)
60fps 4K ProResHQ and RAW
60fps HD ProResHQ (I use this ALL the time)

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber August 29, 2015

Hey Jan,
I totally agree with you, I love love love shooting with the Odyssey and FS cameras and in this combo it’s the one device to use, but I think many people are looking for something else and don’t need the FS RAW and slomo features, so hence the review for exactly those people. I really think the Odyssey is in a different league.

Mark Weiss Reply
Mark Weiss August 28, 2015

You left out the fact that the Shogun cannot record 4k via HDMI no 2k via SDI. If you provide it a 4k signal from Sony FS7, Shogun will display no input.

This is a very serious fault for a product that claimns to record 4k. All 17:9 formats are incompatible with Shogun.

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber August 29, 2015

If you look closely you will see that in the comparison table. I agree it’s weird they don’t provide these formats, but the PIX-E5 lacks many more formats and most people seem to need UHD nowadays.

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Albrecht Ziburski August 28, 2015

On your first picture the shogun screen looks more reflective than the pix-e’s. Can you say something on the outdoor visibility of both screens?

 Kalogeris George Reply
Kalogeris George August 28, 2015

ohh, thanks for the comparison.
But, please make a decent comparison between small, affordable monitors for the crowd.
SmallHD_501 Vs Sony_CLM-FHD5 Vs BM-Video_assist.
I really need to capture in s-Log but see in real colors and Levels

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber August 29, 2015

Good idea, do you have these monitors? Which one do you prefer so far?

Mel Bourne Reply
Mel Bourne August 29, 2015

There a missing image guys.

Thanks, nice comparison, I have both and like the shogun much more, especially for only a little bit extra money versus the pix.

James Swiss Reply
James Swiss August 29, 2015

Why is that? I had already two Shoguns, one literally started burning during a take and the second one just fell apart when my assistant dropped it from a hight of about 30 inches. It was great to use the Atomos while nothing else was around. Now I am happy to have the PIX-E5. Seriously Sound Devices is known to keep adding great stuff to their firmware – just wait for a few days. I have received my PIX-E5 this week, I love it. It feels like I have made an investment, that I will not regret for a few years.

Mel Bourne Reply
Mel Bourne August 29, 2015

Oh shit, I haven’t heard of those types of issues.

I like the big shogun screen, love the layout of features, it works smoother and faster too.

The sound of the fan isn’t an issue.
I haven’t had an issue with durability.

Sorry to hear about your experiences, that’s forty bad, what have Atomos said about it?

Oscar Goldman Reply
Oscar Goldman August 29, 2015

The PIX-E5 doesn’t record 4K over SDI? That’s ridiculous!

Deal-breaker. Ugh.

Mark Weiss Reply
Mark Weiss August 29, 2015

I can tell you it doesn’t record 4K over HDMI, nor 2K over SDI. I tried both with the Sony FS7. Shogun shows “NO INPUT” on its screen when I feed either of those signals on either input.

James Coe Reply
James Coe August 29, 2015

The pix-e5h is 300 dollars cheaper than the e5 – if you only need HDMI recording for an a7s like me for the price and form factor including multiple batteries, durability and cheaper media its a clear winner! 500+ cheaper than the shogun!

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber August 29, 2015

hold that thought

William Jarvis Reply
William Jarvis August 30, 2015

I’m about to pull the trigger on a PIX E5H, should I not? Is there a price drop or something around the corner? Let me into your world, Sebastian!

Andy Zou Reply
Andy Zou September 12, 2015

Most likely about the Ninja Assassin

Markus Lubenica Reply
Markus Lubenica August 29, 2015

The Sony A7RII just does UHD internal no 4k DCI, finally face that and don’t be foolish with this marketing trap! :P

 Damian Dodd Reply
Damian Dodd June 1, 2016

At only 29 and whatever minutes. Plus 4K internal overheats the Alpha cameras. Plus a larger external monitor is a good thing. I could go on…

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Frank F June 16, 2016

29 minutes is plenty of time for one take unless you’re filming graduation ceremonies. The 4K internal overheating has been fixed via firmware update. A larger external monitor isn’t always a good thing, especially if you’re using a small camera.

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Crimson Son August 31, 2015

Not sure why the headline. You have 2 of the several field recorders and one of them is far from matured.

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber September 1, 2015

Which several are you referring to?

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Crimson Son September 1, 2015

Atomos as 2 model lines (Ninja Assasin, available from B&H and has DNxHR). Convergent has one. AJA KiPro has a 4K model. And of course Pix as 2 models, which you only compared 1. Yes the E7 is bigger. But I don’t think that is enough to disqualify it for at least being considered the “Best 4K recorder”.

So you have 2 out of 6 possible contenders.

Kicapi Thelegend Reply
Kicapi Thelegend September 3, 2015

I think you should update this posting with more monitors Sebastian. But I really love the way you write your findings rather than the technical aspects of it. You are fair and just in the wordings and conveying your values into this review too.

Will start following more of your reviews now on.

Thanks

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber September 7, 2015

Well thank you, that’s a very nice comment. Glad you liked the review!
I guess the title does demand more monitors be put in the mix indeed…

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lior la September 6, 2015

Wow, Great comparison. Really detailed. I’m not using 4K yet, but I will keep that post in mind, when I’ll start using (hopefully soon)

Alex Amar Reply
Alex Amar September 7, 2015

Great comparison. Would love to see your thoughts on the new atomos ninja assassin compared to the pix-e5 considering its cheaper price.

 Ricardo Martez Reply
Ricardo Martez December 9, 2015

Quick question, did you have the chance to check if it is able to record 4k DCI in true 24 fps?

Or is only 23.98?

Atomos is only 23.98, that is not good for me when you have a gh4 with true 24 fps

Thanks

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Thomas Ammann April 14, 2016

Hey Sebastian,
Thank you for your review. Are you planning to update your post with PIX-E5’s latest firmware update v2.00 ? 4K is possible through 6G-SDI, rec trigger through HDMI, anamorphic de-squeeze, screen flip and more.

 Per Merakerli Reply
Per Merakerli May 16, 2016

can you tell me if I can records from more than two condnser mics and records to seaparate tracks ? what can I do with the 8 digital track? cannont wire op any mics in those ?

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber May 17, 2016

Hi Per,
Yes you can record from 2 different mics, but for phantom power you and more tracks you need the pix-lr kit: http://c5d.at/pixlr