Sony a6300 Low Light Test – a Mini a7S II for Much Less?

The Sony Alpha a6300 is creating quite a stir – Johnnie already posted his mini documentary film shot with the entry-level mirrorless camera from Sony, and we are working on a series of further lab tests with the camera to see its strengths and weaknesses.

From the specs, the camera sounds almost too good to be true: 4K internal in XAVC S on an APS-C sized sensor for below $1,000. That’s about one third of the price of the popular low-light beast, the Sony a7S II.

 

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The low-light test shoot setup

Many people who saw our first review asked how it performs in low light, particularly compared to the Sony a7S II. On a rainy miserable dark rainy winter night here in Vienna, I decided to put together a versatile yet unusual handheld setup that would make the camera as light sensitive as possible.

With a Metabones Speed Booster E-EF and a Canon EF L 70-200mm IS II f/2.8 zoom lens, I was out shooting a few test shots in the city center at an effective f/2.0 (gaining one additional stop of light with the Speed Booster). The base ISO of this camera is 800, but I used ISOs between mostly 3200 and 25,600 and to my surprise, the low light capability of the camera is exceptional. I didn’t do a comparison to the a7S II but it’s very very clean up all the way to 25,600 ISO.

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Sony a6300 with Metabones Speed Booster and the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8

Having the ability to use a Speed Booster on the Sony a6300 is a great gain because of its APS-C sized sensor, making the footage effectively look like it’s been shot on a full frame 35mm camera sensor, and adding over a stop of sensitivity.

I decided to go handheld purely for practical reasons and this was not shot to win any beauty contests – I was trying to see harsh contrasts and deep shadows combined with bright lights at night, to stretch the sensor’s abilities. Please scroll down to watch an ungraded version of the UHD clip – you can also download it on Vimeo and have a play with yourself. (It’s encoded with 40MBit in H.264.)

Noise reduction works differently

Details of this will be highlighted in our upcoming lab tests, but we observed that the internal noise reduction of the camera seems to be working a little differently, calculating the difference between frames – which results in some ghosting with fast movement. This might be down to inferior processing power in the camera compared to the Sony a7S II.

Ungraded version of the footage:

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tom kelly March 7, 2016

Hi Nino, Thanks for the video. Is there a reason your always using slog2 rather than slog3 cine? I use slog3 cine in EL mode on my FS7 so wanting to match the 2 cameras.

Best

Tom

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

Hi Tom, I don’t like to use Slog3 on the Alpha series because of the immense compression. I find it highlights artifacts after grading because it’s stretching it too much for the highly compressed codec … which is why I stick with Slog2.

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Jon H Richter March 7, 2016

Great review. For someone who owns no lenses and no camera, can you recommend any two lenses for this camera?

Also, do you think you can get similar results from this camera as with A7RII in video, with regards to image quality?

 Piotr Szubryt Reply
Piotr Szubryt March 7, 2016

i’m planning affordable seteup Sigma 17-50 and Sony 35mm 1.8 . Next step will be metabones (if its work with a6300) and full frame sigma 24-70 2.8 + samyang 35-50-85 T1.5

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Jon H Richter March 7, 2016

How about image stabilization? Isn’t it necessary for handheld video shooting?

 Piotr Szubryt Reply
Piotr Szubryt March 7, 2016

its helpful but not necessary. If you export in HD you can rec in UHD and stabilise in postproduction. If metabonce will work with a6300 and stabilisation in for example canon mount. You can spend money for adaptor and canon lens with stabilisation.

 Andrew Dodd Reply
Andrew Dodd April 13, 2016

Stabilization in postprocessing and the A6300 don’t mix.

The A6300’s rolling shutter is rarely noticeable, however, it becomes quite noticeable/disconcerting if you perform stabilization postprocessing of anything that has lateral shake. Stabilization removes the left/right shake, but leaves the rolling shutter artifacts, making the whole image look like wobbly jello.

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

The lenses you need depends on what you want to produce with it. For most versatility you could go with zoom lenses, like the new Sony lenses at f/2.8, which work great with autofocus. For primes, I would look at the Zeiss Batis and Loxia lenses for the Alpha series cameras. Batis have a great autofocus as well but it’s fly-by-wire (tested here: https://www.cinema5d.com/zeiss-batis-lenses-reviewed-in-music-video-those-goddamn-hippies-drift/), Loxia are fully manual lenses.

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Jon H Richter March 7, 2016

Sure. Loxia 21mm give much better IQ than Batis 25 IMO, but it’s only manual focus. I want to shoot landscapes, street and family.

 Phil Bautista Reply
Phil Bautista March 11, 2016

So what’s so bad with manual? You;re much better off shooting in manual for landscapes and street anyway. As for family, depends on what type but you should be fine shooting in manual with a wide angle like 21mm unless you’re shooting kids at play and they do a lot of running to and away from you.

David Peterson Reply
David Peterson March 8, 2016

I recommend getting the Sony 18-105mm f/4, this is a great general purpose zoom lens! Nothing else quite like it. I have it.

Then you want for your 2nd lens to get a general purpose kind of prime (i.e with a “normal FoV”).

Two options to consider:
Sony 35mm f1.8 OS, or…
Nikon 50mm f/1.8D (very very cheap to pick up secondhand!) with a Mitakon Zhongyi Lens Turbo II (about US$135ish. Plus a normal adapter for about another twenty bucks).

Third option…. get *BOTH* the Nikon and Sony primes! ;-) As they are very affordable after all.

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Jon H Richter March 8, 2016

Thanks for this, I’ll consider this.
Jon

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Angel M.P. March 7, 2016

Hi Nino. Great test. Please, Would you mind to explain how to do the rack focus with no touch screen, as in the rail train secuence? Is it made with the focus ring or with a custom key perhaps? Thanks

 Marco Del Guasta Reply
Marco Del Guasta March 7, 2016

I’d like to know this as well.

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

The old traditional way, on the lens barrel of the 70-200mm Canon lens, manually, while handholding it. I didn’t use anything else.

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Anonymous March 7, 2016

Really? You place your hand on the focus ring, and…. wait for it…. TURN.

Alexander Zechmeister Reply
Alexander Zechmeister March 7, 2016

sag hast du eine sinnvoll akku lösung für die kleine die du empfehlen kannst

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

There are a number of battery solutions that make sense, Sebastian tested a Lanparte solution as part of another review that should work: https://www.cinema5d.com/blackmagic-ursa-viewfinder-any-camera/

Max Helmer Reply
Max Helmer March 7, 2016

Leo Beisert

Kelvin Rose Reply
Kelvin Rose March 7, 2016

The video autofocus work with canon lens?

cinema5D Reply
cinema5D March 7, 2016

I did not test this, but it’s most likely unusable because the Speed Booster makes the autofocus very slow. Nino

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

Not tested. Unlikely, the Metabones Speed Booster makes it very slow.

 Andrew Dodd Reply
Andrew Dodd April 12, 2016

Nino – can you clarify this? So far, your comment has been widely cited as indicating that A6300 users probably shouldn’t expect AF with the speedbooster, however – http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57595280 indicates that the A6300 with Speedbooster performs about as well as A6300 with the non-Speedbooster Metabones IV.

Are you saying that it’s just video AF that is poor (as to be expected with any adapter that emulates the LA-EA1/EA3 including the non-Speedbooster Metabones IV adapter) – how does stills AF compare to a non-Speedbooster adapter?

David Pierson Reply
David Pierson March 10, 2016

@Kelvin Most likely will still struggle with autofocus. I have a metabones for my a7s using Canon lenses. And autofocus even on photos are slow.

Kelvin Rose Reply
Kelvin Rose March 10, 2016

Thanks

Kelvin Rose Reply
Kelvin Rose March 10, 2016

David Pierson The video autofocus only work with Sony lens? How work? This camera have ultra fast autofocus but only work with the new serie G? Let me know, thanks.

Serrano Jonathan Reply
Serrano Jonathan March 7, 2016

Edu Escudero

Patrick Hansen Reply
Patrick Hansen March 7, 2016

No metabones speed booster is used. Gives you a full stop though.

Anthony Finocchiaro Reply
Anthony Finocchiaro March 7, 2016

Antonin Pergod ;)

Antonin Pergod Reply
Antonin Pergod March 7, 2016

à même pas 1000 boules !

Anthony Finocchiaro Reply
Anthony Finocchiaro March 7, 2016

ouaip et j’ai pas encore regarder les spec mais elle shoot en 4K aussi loool

Antonin Pergod Reply
Antonin Pergod March 7, 2016

120 fps en 1080 / 24Mpx

Laurent Cantin Reply
Laurent Cantin March 7, 2016

anyway his low light with 4k for this price, it’s incredible. unfortunately it’s still an APSC… :p

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Micah Foster March 7, 2016

The thing to remember is that APS-C is about the size of Super 35 film or sensors. So, if you do video, it’s more filmic. But Full Frame (35mm Film) is beautiful. With the speedbooster you can make this FF. You can always make a sensor “bigger” you can’t ever make it smaller without losing resolution. That’s one of the reasons I like the M43 Sensor on the GH4.

Norberto Peña III Reply
Norberto Peña III March 7, 2016

Most films are shot on Super 35mm (pretty close to APSC), so that shouldn’t be a con.

Laurent Cantin Reply
Laurent Cantin March 7, 2016

agree.

cinema5D Reply
cinema5D March 7, 2016

Use a Speed Booster and it will look like 35mm full frame so it’s not really an issue …

 Phil Bautista Reply
Phil Bautista March 11, 2016

Correct me if I’m wrong but, doesn’t the speed booster just add a stop of light? Are you suggesting that the speed booster will also affect the depth of field? Sorry but I’m still a noob to the effects of speed boosters on sensors so your reply will be much appreciated.

Laurent Cantin Reply
Laurent Cantin March 7, 2016

so you are almost saying this camera is the best camera pack to shoot…

Dave Andrade Reply
Dave Andrade March 10, 2016

Aps-c is the BEST format. Many many films were shot on super 35.

Anand Vyas Reply
Anand Vyas March 7, 2016

Wow nice addition to my A7rii and A7sii

Rob Davis Reply
Rob Davis March 7, 2016

If they can get noise-free footage from this sub-$1k aps-c camera at 25,600iso, why do I see noise at 6400iso on my $5k FS5?

Mux Neumeier Reply
Mux Neumeier March 7, 2016

because it’s a different camera.

cinema5D Reply
cinema5D March 7, 2016

Yes very different camera – however we do wonder too why they differentiate like that. The low noise level seems to be down to processing as well. Nino

Mux Neumeier Reply
Mux Neumeier March 7, 2016

cinema5D Knowing Sony, they could very well come out with a firmware update bringing reduced noise levels. I’m still waiting for the fix for the broken ISOs (6400-12800) for the a7sII though.

Rob Davis Reply
Rob Davis March 7, 2016

Yes, I agree that it is a different camera/sensor in many ways. Since purchasing the FS5, I’ve come to see it and the A7SII as more of a pair of cameras to use together on a doc, reality or other project with low-light scenes, as opposed to alternatives to one another. The a6300 could compliment that pair nicely in a variety of production environments. Yet, I still feel like Sony could have (or hopefully will still be able to) tune the FS5 to be good to another stop or two or of high ISO. Get me to 8000 and I’ll be happy. Along with improving on a couple codec issues, it would give the camera so much more market potential for documentary and reality, as the form-factor really kicks ass. 6400 is fine for controlled narrative shooting but it doesn’t seem like a camera designed for that environment with the FS7 at such a close price.

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Joey Schmoey March 7, 2016

Trust me, this camera is not noise free even at iso 800 with slog. The compression you see from vimeo cuts out ALOT of noise. And when going up to 12800+, the noise reduction is applied so hard that you end up with maybe… maybe… 1080p worth of detail. They just hide the noise well at the expense of detail.

Nilz De Guzman Reply
Nilz De Guzman March 7, 2016

It’s because the Sony a6300 is the first to use the new copper wiring nano technology. It is the latest tech in sensor manufacturing and there’s more light coming in this time with the use of smaller wirings.. Wait til’ we see the next generation of sony full frame sensors with this new wiring tech. Looks like noise in low light will be going away around 4 to 5 stop exposure from the base ISO.

Kurtis Kastertroy Imel Reply
Kurtis Kastertroy Imel March 9, 2016

I love the “big” cameras like fs700, fs5, etc… but when I use them with my a7s, each time I just cant help but think to myself that the a7s series is far better. The image is killer, quick easy controls and easy to set up, and unbeatable low light. Makes me want to only use those and not the big guys.

Rob Davis Reply
Rob Davis March 9, 2016

I agree that they have clearly spent more time on features with the broader A7s II market. For example, you can set multiple custom zebras on the A7S. Why can’t I do this on the FS5? There are other examples, as well. However, there are limitations with the mirrorless line that keep me from going with those as A cameras in many situations. Namely, no SDI output, no ND filters and the form factor. These limitations are probably the justification for them packing so many features into the A7sII. If they make the FS5 too awesome, it will cut into the FS7, F55 markets and so on…

Raymond Rahner Reply
Raymond Rahner March 7, 2016

Scott Rahner

Nick Capra Reply
Nick Capra March 7, 2016

Alexa Werrlein

 Patrick Brazier Reply
Patrick Brazier March 7, 2016

Thanks for the info! I was wondering, Is the MC-11 from Sigma the same thing as Metabones? Does it give you an extra stop of light too?
Also, with this new converter coming out, has it changed your opinion regarding what lenses to get for the a6300? On a budget I was thinking about the Rokinon 12mm, Sigma 30 and 60mm DN and a Rokinon Reflex 300mm… What are your thoughts?

 Malcolm Debono Reply
Malcolm Debono March 7, 2016

The Sigma MC-11 is closer to the Metabones Smart Adapter since it is just an adapter with electronics, unlike the Metabones Speedbooster which contains glass to reduce the image projection from the lens to the sensor. Therefore it won’t give an extra stop of light.

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

I agree with Malcolm. All the Speed Booster copy cats that I have tried fall flat in terms of sharpness or light gain. Metabones seems to be the only company making decent “focal expanders”.

 Patrick Brazier Reply
Patrick Brazier March 7, 2016

Will the AF speed be significantly improved with the a6300 and metabones do you think?

 Phil Bautista Reply
Phil Bautista March 11, 2016

It did with the A7RII. Here’s hoping the same thing happens here.

 Phil Bautista Reply
Phil Bautista March 11, 2016

Did you do a comparo for this? I would love to see the shots you took with the copy cats to see how they compare to the Metabones. Sorry but new to this site so a link to the article (if you have one) would be deeply appreciated.

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Peter Kent March 7, 2016

Thanks Nino,

It all looks good on here, quite sharp even at 6400. Except the shot at 1:23 looks much softer to me than the others; do you know what’s happening there? Was it just a bit of missed focus or some other operator or post-processing error? I hope it’s not an issue with the sensor or in-camera processing. Was that the noise reduction ghosting mentioned?

Please understand I’m not complaining about anything, I like your work and what sony is giving us at such a great price, I just want to better understand what I’m seeing.

Thanks a lot, keep it up :D

 Noah Yuan-Vogel Reply
Noah Yuan-Vogel March 7, 2016

How did you rate the camera though? Slog2/3 ISOs are pretty meaningless since they actually use the same gain settings as much lower ISOs in other gammas and most people rate them about 1-2stops under.

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Jon H Richter March 7, 2016

So this is full frame lens used on APSC sensor ? Therefore losing 1 stop and effectively becoming f4 lens? Then gaining 1 stop using Metabones and is then f2.8 again? Can someone confirm this?

 Jesse Dacri Reply
Jesse Dacri March 7, 2016

You don’t lose a stop of light gathering by using a full frame lens on APS-C. You only lose field of view.

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Jon H Richter March 7, 2016

Well. Full frame f2.8 lens becomes f4 when used on APS-C sensor. Whether or not that translates into losing 1 stop of light is questionable.

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

That’s not how this work Jon. It’s still f/2.8. That’s a physical thing in the lens. The sensor is less light sensitive simply because it is smaller.

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Jon H Richter March 7, 2016

Tony Northrup asserts here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbUIfB5YUc @1:26

that if full frame lens like 24-70 f2.8 is put on a APS-C body (with crop factor 1.5 like Sony’s) it behaves like 36-105 f4.2.

 Toxu Kim Reply
Toxu Kim March 8, 2016

you are not losing 1stop of light. generally a apsc f2.8 behaves like full frame f4 (1 stop less) in terms of shallow depht of field.

a 24-70 f2.8 (full frame or apsc lens) always behaves like 36-105 f4.2 on apsc sensor in term of shallow depht of field.

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

What you are saying doesn’t make any sense. You don’t loose a stop on an a smaller sensor, why would you?

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Mike Hannigan March 7, 2016

How well does the autofocus work for video with the Canon glass and adapter?

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

Not very well, but that is because of the Metabones.

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Mike Hannigan March 7, 2016

Thanks Nino! Keep up the great work!

Atlas Camera Support Reply
Atlas Camera Support March 7, 2016

nice!

Sean Conroy Mehen Reply
Sean Conroy Mehen March 7, 2016

Nick Braun

Nick Braun Reply
Nick Braun March 7, 2016

Getting more stoked. I’m curious about the weirdness at 1:31.

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

The water reflections?

Dudastico Secco Reply
Dudastico Secco March 7, 2016

Victor Secco

Adrian Outlaw Reply
Adrian Outlaw March 7, 2016

Looks good

Ivan Mauricio Reply
Ivan Mauricio March 7, 2016

Camilo Nño Quiceno

 Hubert Bartz Reply
Hubert Bartz March 7, 2016

Hello Nino,

Thank you very much for this article. I have also question about blue led’s – did you maybe check if this camera has the same issue as a7s, which is blue highlight clipping/aliasing issue? I will be very thankful for that information ! Regards ! :)

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

That is a typical Sony sensor issue that has been around for decades. I doubt this is solved now … however try to do a white balance under those lights. Believe me it works.

Andrew Burgher Reply
Andrew Burgher March 7, 2016

Dane worth looking into 👍

 Travis Johansen Reply
Travis Johansen March 7, 2016

That looks like an incredible image for being a cropped sensor. Completely blows my mind at sharpness compared to the C100 when viewing full screen at for example iso 8000. The details in the shadows are just on another level. Granted that’s what happens with technology over time – but still.

I video meetings with pretty low light (ISO 5000 on the c100 regularly) and do NOT like the noise I get – the image just doesn’t hold up. Being a similar APS-C sized sensor, it’s interesting to see just how much of a difference 4k makes regardless of what people say “you don’t need 4k”. Clearly, in every day use the 4k is just THAT MUCH SHARPER!

For commercial work, the built in 4k would be so handy. Curious – what was real life battery life like? How was 1080p 120fps? Does it hold together in post or does the video footage just fall apart?

Thanks Nino for your time,
Travis – Minneapolis, MN, USA
http://www.providfilms.com

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 7, 2016

Thanks Travis!

Good question, battery life was surprisingly good. I think they should start working on a new battery type for these cameras but on these test shots I just used just one battery for about 1.5 or 2 hours. I might have started the second one at the very end but I’m not sure …

 Phil Bautista Reply
Phil Bautista March 11, 2016

Have you tested how long you can record continuously? How well does it handle heating?

Helder Bicho Reply
Helder Bicho March 8, 2016

Carlos Carlos David

Hussein Kdouh Reply
Hussein Kdouh March 8, 2016

Selcuk Srr Mohammad Bîlal

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Luke Wen March 8, 2016

Was it shot with S-log2 gamma and S-Gamut3.Cine colour space? Is S-Gamut3.Cine even an option on A6300? I know S-Log3 should be avoided but S-Gamut3.Cine is a huge improvement in terms of colour rendition.

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber March 8, 2016

I believe our camera was set to PP7 (default: Slog 2 S-Gamut3)

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 12, 2016

PP7 – yes. That’s the normal S-Gamut though.

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Jaakko Rinne March 9, 2016

I tried the camera at a recent expo and yes, you can choose S-Gamut3.Cine on the a6300.

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Luke Wen March 8, 2016

sorry for the double post Nino :-o

Marcelo Perdido Reply
Marcelo Perdido March 8, 2016

Renato Caiuby e Habacuque Lima

Reece Grocott Reply
Reece Grocott March 8, 2016

Christopher Cox

 Peter Breame Breame Reply
Peter Breame Breame March 8, 2016

Lumix GH4 vs Sony a6300 opinions please

 Joseph Berg Reply
Joseph Berg March 8, 2016

Hey Nino,
How was low light at HD?

 Christopher Dobey Reply
Christopher Dobey March 8, 2016

Would Slog3 be preferable if recorded to ProRes HQ via the uncompressed 8-bit HDMI out? or still Slog2?

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 8, 2016

There is definitely more wiggle room as soon as you record externally into ProRes, but it’s still 8-bit and might still be a stretch. But it’s worth a try.

George Bruce Wilson Reply
George Bruce Wilson March 8, 2016

Derrick Lytle

Derrick Lytle Reply
Derrick Lytle March 8, 2016

Go shoot some milky goodness when you get yours!

George Bruce Wilson Reply
George Bruce Wilson March 8, 2016

Derrick Lytle will do

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James Tayler March 8, 2016

If I didn’t need a lowlight camera, would the a6300 make any sense or would you rather recommend the GH4? I saw the GH4 is on sale right now.

Sebastian Wöber Reply
Sebastian Wöber March 8, 2016

Hi James,
That totally depends on your application and is hard to answer. The GH4 has better audio, a better HD mode and better rolling shutter performance, but less dynamic range and a smaller sensor.

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 8, 2016

We don’t know anything for sure but to me the GH4 looks like EOL. I’m sure there will be a new model quite soon.

Timmo Tokkinen Reply
Timmo Tokkinen March 8, 2016

Antonio io l’ho visto qui

Miguel Martinez Hernandez Reply
Miguel Martinez Hernandez March 8, 2016

La Cíncera Concuína

Cristian Ungureanu Reply
Cristian Ungureanu March 8, 2016

Filmeaza beton!

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Silver Rees March 9, 2016

I want see a NX1 vs. A6300. NX1 for now is best camera for sport and video for me. If you need sharp, fast AF,15fps/28Mpx the NX1 is unmathable under 1.5k$. Limited partialy only in low ligt and optics. A6300 and later GH5 can change that?

 Cameron Gade Reply
Cameron Gade March 9, 2016

Nino! This footage is simply beautiful. I actually found it rather discouraging. I own the A7s II and am so amazed at how clean the image is. Especially since this is uncolored. Do you mind telling me how you are exposing the image? What does your histogram look like? Do you attribute this to shooting in slog2 as opposed to slog3? Any help is greatly appreciated!

John Lewis Reply
John Lewis March 9, 2016

Well, that just answered the question of whether or not I spend $1k on a metabones speedbooster for my GH4 (which it is roughly in AUD). $1k on this camera seems like a much wiser investment.

Dino Accio Vergara Reply
Dino Accio Vergara March 9, 2016

Francesco Ybris Salvati

 Patrick Perez Reply
Patrick Perez March 9, 2016

Beautiful footage. Very promising. But is that rolling shutter in the 2nd shot or are you shooting a reflection?

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Danny Taillon March 9, 2016

Hi Nino,

I’m wondering if you applied stabilization to a few shots? Can you confirm?
Thanks!

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 9, 2016

Hi Danny, yes I have – sorry about that! Was clarified further up in the comments. Nino

Paul Glastra Reply
Paul Glastra March 9, 2016

Can someone explain to me how a speedbooster can create a larger aperture? Tnx

Matt Harmsworth Reply
Matt Harmsworth March 9, 2016

Craig.

Francesco Costa Reply
Francesco Costa March 10, 2016

Gabriele

Anthony Mehlhaff Reply
Anthony Mehlhaff March 10, 2016

Not surprised, Sony got that low light on lock

Tyson Leith Reply
Tyson Leith March 10, 2016

These seem sick for the price Kurt Edward Ian, maybe a good second body

Kurt Edward Ian Reply
Kurt Edward Ian March 10, 2016

Agreed

Felix Hackland Reply
Felix Hackland March 10, 2016

Greg Phillips !!

Joe Williams Reply
Joe Williams March 10, 2016

Do you think this camera could perform well as a primary device, or would would say it would work better as a b cam for secondary footage?

Nino Leitner Reply
Nino Leitner March 11, 2016

Depends on your needs, the missing audio jack however is a big downer in case you want to record audio internally with the XLR unit. Other than that it could definitely be an A camera.

Francesco Iacono Reply
Francesco Iacono March 10, 2016

La vera alternativa a Canon i loro ingegneri non sono in grado o non vogliono implementare il video 4K nella stessa fascia di prezzo senza contare che per riprese af decenti occorrono obiettivi specifici STM. Io passo a Sony Canon ADDIO.

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Carlos Martinez March 10, 2016

There’s some something I do not quite get about so much people recommending it. They all agree that it has serious roller shutter issues.

So in spite of all its advantages, how do you deal with that?

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Danny Taillon March 10, 2016

I’d say it really depends on how you shoot

I wanna shoot 4K 24P and I don’t mind the rolling shutter.

All the mirrorless have terrible rolling shutter, see for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6kra9J05E4

The A6300, it may be worse but it’s doesn’t mean that the A7SII or GH4 are perfect neither.

If rolling shutter is an issue to you, buy something like the 3000$ Blackmagic 4K production camera that has a Global Shutter.

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Carlos Martinez March 10, 2016

On the two reviews I read, the put as a con the A6300 rolling shutter. And that it was much worst than those two other cameras you mention, that also have rolling shutters.

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Danny Taillon March 10, 2016

Hey Carlos, like I said, The A6300, it may be worse but it’s doesn’t mean that the A7SII or GH4 are perfect neither. If rolling shutter is an issue to you, you should look at other cameras! In real life situation, I don’t think it’s that bad. You should rent one of try one yourself!

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Carlos Martinez March 10, 2016

Danny,

The review I’m talking about was on Cinema5D too:

https://www.cinema5d.com/sony-a6300-vs-sony-a7s-ii-how-good-is-it-really/

Quoted from the review:

Rolling Shutter

As mentioned in our initial review, unfortunately the rolling shutter effect (also referred to as “jello”) is quite terrible on the Sony a6300. In fact, with a readout speed of about 34 milliseconds from top to bottom, it is the most severe rolling shutter we have ever measured on a camera! Even worse than the Samsung NX1’s 30ms. In comparison, the Sony a7S II has about 25 milliseconds and the Sony FS7 has 14. Less is better.

Of course, given the chance I should try it myself and see how it affects the image in the way I shoot, which is never hand held but might have some steadycam shots.

The video shot by Nino indeed shows remarkable things you can do with the A6300, which for that kind of money is incredible.

I raised the rolling shutter question because it caught my attention on two reviews I had seen. Just that.

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Danny Taillon March 10, 2016

Yes, I read that article aswell. But like you said, looking at the video shot by Nino, even if in the lab it’s rated worse than, it doesn’t look like a big problem to me.

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Carlos Martinez March 10, 2016

On that I agree. As usual, we have to know what limitations our tool has (and all do have limitations) and learn how to work around them.

Considering that for that money you can just buy a Canon Rebel, quite far away from a 5D, it seems there are much more high quality things you can do with this camera.

I already have a BM Pocket, and I’m looking for an affordable 4K camera as B camera to downgrade to 2K and mix with the Pocket. Was awaiting on the Micro 4K, but the A6300 seems like a good choice too. Hopefully someone will compare both cameras to see how they match.

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Alexander Manton April 16, 2016

I just shot with the a6300 for two weeks in India on a project for World Vision. I had no issues at all with rolling shutter the way that we shot. However, it was 44c in the shade outside of Hyderabad and the camera was overheating every few minutes…! I had my C100 as main camera thankfully.

The camera was excellent other than the overheating. The 4k picture quality is just stunning.

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Alexander Manton April 16, 2016

Maybe it would be more helpful to others if I gave a better fuller report of my 2-3 week experiences with the camera.

I’m a Canon shooter and have 5Dk3, 7Dk2, and C100. I shoot 75% video and 25% photos or so. I’m quite impressed with the Sony FS5 (although not happy about its noise and a few other things) so have been considering switching to Sony altogether (like much of the rest of the world). So when this cheap a6300 came out, I jumped. The 3 week shoot I just did in India was our first project with it.

Pros:
-the 4k image is just stunning. I’m shocked at how nice it is. It makes me want to shoot all my projects in 4k and then go down to HD for delivery.
-PP6 on the camera is the best balance between a flat profile and enough color to be pleasing to shoot.
-the price is just fantastic. You could get 2-3 of these and it would hardly be felt at the bank…
-well made
-I love that it has slomo but have not seen the results of the quality of it yet
-the EVF is great and very useful
-the articulating monitor/screen is fantastic and very useful.
-great in low light, equal to A7s2 up to about 3200 ISO.
-did I mention its cheap? 1/3 price of A7S2.
-peaking and zebras work great

Cons:
-AF with the Metabones is amazingly slow
-noise in Slog2 or Slog3 is more than I know what to do with right now. I’m sure I’ll figure out how to grade it soon (I literally just got off the plane a few hours ago so no chance yet) but it really seems to add so much noise that I don’t know if its worth it. PP6 has worked great for my needs.
-its too small. Yeah, great to fit in the camera bag but it feels really awkward in my hand
-overheats all the time. Yes, its expected to overheat in the 44c weather we were shooting in (even my 5Dk3 overheated) but it was overheating even indoors, etc. Really disappointed about this. I’ll have to see how it performs for interviews in air conditioning. If even that still causes it to overheat, I can’t use it in professional situations, which is all we shoot.
-the HD image is muddy, soft. Underwhelming. I’m waiting to see how it grades/sharpens as the 5Dk3 image is also soft out of the camera but is great when just a bit of sharpening is applied. I’m hoping the a6300 will be the same.
-the lack of internal body image stabilisation is really disappointing as the Sigma lenses that we’ve swiched to and love don’t have IS. We are really stuck in this regard as a lot of what we shoot is hand held now.
-record button is in wrong place, but easy to set CustomButton1 to be record and that’s much better
-tiny HDMI connection is very finicky and it failed us quite a few times..

All in all, I loved most things about it. I’ll probably sell of my Canon gear and get another one of these and the FS5 and be done with it. Will be a good kit.

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Ruhayat X March 19, 2016

Nice! Thank you for the extensive reviews, I have been contemplating between the A7s and this. Wish you could upload videos to YouTube as well, though. Vimeo simply does not work for me, most of the time I get endless buffering even on auto mode.

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Doron Tsirulnik March 25, 2016

Can i maintain AF with the 6300 abd any nikon\canon adapter?
Was thinking about pairing this with the NIKON 24-70 2.8
which is sharp and parafocal zoom.

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David Karner March 25, 2016

Have you experienced any “jello” effect problems with the 6300?

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Shaun Flannery April 29, 2016

Nino, I recently purchased this camera knowing that I’d have to invest in a Metabones adapter to use my EF mount lenses. I’ve been shooting videos indoors of bands on well-lit stages. I use PP8 but have it custom set to cine4 gamut.cine. This was suggested by several videographers on youtube who have gotten great results. I use film convert as well. I am consistently getting sharpness issues and noise. Coming from Canon 70d and t5i cameras this is strange to me. I was expecting performance at least on part with those cameras, but even at iso400 I am getting significant noise. I was told this is what it would look like before grading, but that doesn’t fix it. Furthermore, even with a flat PP (PP off) I still get noise. Neat Video Reduce Noisev4 cleans it up well, but damn that takes a long time. Here you are at 3200 iso looks great! My videos are 1.8 using Sigma Art 18-35mm iso400 shutter 50, XAVCs-HD 24P super35mm. I am wondering if this is coming from the Metabones adapter as I haven’t been able to afford any of the Sony E Mount lenses (g master 85mm would be nice).

Any thoughts?

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Kristofer Göthe August 22, 2016

Very nice! In what software have you graded? :) /Kristofer Göthe (Sweden)