LAB Review – Samsung NX1 Video Mode – Frustrating!

SamsungNX1_labThe Samsung NX1 is Samsung’s first photo camera to with video shooting functionality. It was announced in September and brings interesting video features like a 4K mode and is also the first camera to feature new H.265 compression that promises to offer more quality at smaller file sizes.

Disclaimer:
This review is based on the first Samsung NX1 release firmware introduced in 2014. Since then new firmware updates have significantly improved the camera. This review does not reflect the current state of the camera and it will not be amended until we get a chance to re-test.

Personal words:
First off I want to say that having reviewed many cameras there’s an element of surprise seeing several positive reviews about the Samsung NX1 video mode. In my observation Samsung tried something bold with the NX1, and they should get credit for that, but they couldn’t quite achieve something that I would call usable. There are some major issues with this camera and I would not recommend it for video shooting (yet).

The photo functionality of this camera was not tested.

c5d_lab_logopsd2Like many other cameras before we ran the Samsung NX1 through our test lab and will give you some insights on sensor performance, dynamic range, sharpness, rolling shutter and usability in comparison to the Panasonic GH4.

Camera Settings
Unlike all our other lab tests this Samsung NX1 was equipped with the Samsung 16-50mm F/2-2.8 OIS Lens and shot at 50mm. (We could not get the necessary mount adapter for NX-M in time.)
The camera was set to custom picture profile: Sharpness -10, Contrast -10
“Smart Range+” was enabled for maximum dynamic range.

Dynamic Range

We tested all ISO settings from 100 up to the camera’s limit of 25600. Interestingly this is the first camera we ever saw that has a consistent 10.1 stops without any shift in brightness throughout the whole range up until ISO 3200. This means there’s no “sweet spot” or native ISO that we would recommend to shoot at.

10.1 stops of dynamic range is not a good rating. Actually it is the worst rating of all lab tests we have published so far. However it comes in not far behind the Panasonic GH4’s 10.8 stops.

We’re certain the sensor is capable of more dynamic range, but the camera is very limited at this time with the baked in picture profiles and no log option.

Dynamic range from ISO 6400 degrades with noise in blacks. Awkwardly there is no actual shift in brightness at ISO 12800 while noise does get more severe. Same goes for ISO 25600. So there’s actually no point to dial in the higher ISO numbers as they have no effect other than degrading the picture.

Also as noise kicks in at the higher ISO’s it seems there is strong noise reduction used at the lower ISO’s. There is a lot more noise on the GH4 and the NX1 image is cleaner throughout, but the NX1 is only a little stronger in terms of lowlight overall.

Rolling Shutter

In terms of rolling shutter the Samsung NX1 is so bad we had to change our test parameters. In UHD mode surprisingly rolling shutter is even a tad more severe than in the larger 4K mode. Probably a smaller portion of the sensor is used and upscaled to the 4K size in 4K mode.

With 29 milli seconds difference between top and bottom it is worse than both the Canon 1DC as well as the Sony A7S. The Panasonic GH4 performs a lot better in this test at UHD resolution.

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Sharpness / Detail / Aliasing

SamNX1_sub_UHDOn the left you have a full screenshot of the Samsung NX filming our subjective test chart. Jpeg compression is low enough to retain/show the compression as it comes from the camera. Scroll down for some 1×1 crops.
PanGH4_sub_4K
The first 1×1 crop shows the difference between UHD and 4K mode. Actually 4K has more resolution than UHD, but the image looks a lot softer there. So save the storage and never use 4K mode. Instead UHD offers the nicest picture the NX1 can deliver and yes, it is a very nice and sharp image. Nicer than the image coming from the GH4 and also slightly sharper. I wish the camera was more usable and had H.264 compression instead.

1x1_crop_nx1_1On the 1×1 crop with the red needles we compare the Samsung NX1, Panasonic GH4 and Sony A7S in HD mode.
Clearly the Samsung NX is totally unusable in HD. While we aren’t fond of the Panasonic GH4’s HD mode, what the Samsung NX1 offers is worse than anything I’ve seen on a camera of this kind. The image is extremely soft and washed out. Details disappear in a mist of aliasing, compression, noise reduction and softness.

1x1_crophigh_nx1_2While the GH4’s colors and brightness are off and it has some aliasing, it comes a lot closer to a usable image than the Samsung NX1 ever will. Samsung should improve the features they implement.

H.265

H.265 is a big problem on this camera. At the moment H.265 support is very limited.
In order to get your H.265 files from the camera into your editing software you need to convert them with the tool by Samsung. The tool can be installed by connecting the camera to the computer via USB.
The installation feels a lot like spyware as it collects tracking information and has a user interface from the 90’s. It is unintuitive to use and converts 1 hour worth of UHD footage in 18 hours (on an iMac 27″ late 2012 model).

[Update]: As requested we tried a third party H.265 conversion software. Wondershare offers a video converter that can batch convert H.265 files to ProRes. This tool is about 4 times quicker giving us 1 hour worth of footage after about 4 hours of conversion.
When compared to the Samsung tool we found that UHD file quality is fine with no visible difference to the Samsung converted files, but in HD mode quality is actually worse with more compression artifacts in Wondershare. The Wondershare software costs $50. There will be other conversion software to support H.265 soon.

Unfortunately this is not all. Trying to shoot 120p which the camera offers in HD results in Samsung’s own conversion software to report “unsupported format”. [Wondershare also transcodes 120p files. These however look as unflattering as normal HD mode]

It’s frustrating and time consuming to work with this camera’s footage. Codec quality is good, but there’s something strange in that there is no noise at all. The image looks denoised and slightly unnatural.

SamsungNX1_SUB_iso800_HD

Handling

The camera itself feels very well built. The user interface is intuitive, very responsive and feels more organic than on any other camera I have used. This is a big plus. Unfortunately in movie mode some essential functionality is missing (see below) and it seems Samsung got it all wrong here which could be due to the lacking experience as this was their first large sensor photo camera with video functionality.

One general thing we’re missing is a battery charger. The camera battery has to be charged via the camera’s USB connection.

Problems in movie mode:
• Actually there is no dedicated movie mode and no video button, but only “movie preview mode” which you can set to a custom key.
• In “movie preview mode” no focus check is possible. So you either have to rely on the small screen or switch back to photo mode.
• In “movie preview mode” there’s no histogram.
• Also the histogram in photo mode is less accurate than on other cameras making it quite useless to work with and spot over or underexposure.
• Lens Focus resets to infinity on camera restart or card eject. This is highly annoying.
• The EVF has heavy ghosting. It seems to be of poor quality and is not recommended for video.

Conclusion

As mentioned at the beginning it seems Samsung tried to create something bold with h.265 in the NX1 and a nice video image in high resolution, but the implementation didn’t quite work. The camera cripples itself in so many ways it becomes almost useless. It almost seems easier to shoot RAW on a 5D mark III than to shoot normal video on the Samsung NX1.

I’m sorry this review is not very flattering. Samsung tried, but I think they will have to try again. It’s a mystery why other reviews on the video side are actually quite positive. Here’s a summary of the test results:

Pro’s
+ UHD resolution files in good lighting condition turn out very nice. Panasonic GH4 performs worse in UHD.
+ Very sharp image and nice colors in UHD mode.
+ Nice and bright AMOLED display.
+ Nice menu and user interface (except the video mode interface). GH4 is not so intuitive to use.
+ Large APS-C sized sensor. GH4 comes with a Micro Four Thirds sensor.
+ Peaking, Manual Audio Levels (not while recording), Highlight Check.

Con’s
– Very low dynamic range, no log profile. Panasonic GH4 performs better.
– Very bad rolling shutter performance. Panasonic GH4 performs a lot better.
– No lowlight strength. GH4 is worse though.
– Noise reduction and washed out details in picture. GH4 retains more detail.
– HD mode is unusable. GH4 is HD is not great but usable.
– 4K mode is unnecessary as UHD is sharper.
– File handling of H.265 is extremely (less with third party software) time consuming . GH4 performs better.
– Samsung’s software doesn’t recognise their own file format at 120p.
– Movie Mode is not working well and a hassle to use.
– EVF has ghosting.
– Charger not included. Camera battery has to be charged via camera’s USB connection.
– Not easy to get good lens adapters at this time. Proprietary Samsung lenses are not ideal for video.

The Samsung NX1 offers an impressively beautiful UHD image. If this kind of image is all you’re after and you’re willing to live with the limitations, then this camera could do something for you. It’s just very hard to get there.

The Samsung NX1 is not recommended for most video shooters. For an affordable solution to get 4K video I would prefer the Panasonic GH4 at this time.

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Jason
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I laughed out so loud.

Talk about being biased

Cinema5D gave favorable review for 7D2 says it all.

Arthur Nguyen
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Agreed. This article is an embarrassment for cinema5d. Clearly they can no longer be taken seriously as professionals. What a bunch of hacks.

Johnnie Behiri
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Arthur,

You are welcome to leave. We won’t miss you

Thanks

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Arthur Nguyen
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If I keep commenting, will you continue proving how unprofessional you are with high school jabs as replies? I’d like to see just how worthless as a serious professional you are.

Undoubtedly though, you are worse than I will ever get a chance to see. It’s your turn again.

Johnnie Behiri
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Arthur,
I’ts very tempting “helping you to say goodbye”. Do me a personal favor and move on.

Thanks!

Johnnie

Arthur Nguyen
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– comment deleted for disrespect and use of bad language –

Johnnie Behiri
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Jason.

I guess you had a chance filming with both cameras to accuse us for being biased.

Anyway, keep laughing loud, it’s good for health!

Thanks

Johnnie

Jason Hamilton
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Jason Hamilton

No I only have 5D3 but Real real-world sample of NX1 looks extremely promising.

But then again may be 7D2 looks better for you guys.

I do understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGxOpOUErg

Johnnie Behiri
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Hi Jason. Now, this is more constructive. If you read carefully we clearly write that the final image is nice!. The thing is, too many obstacles shooting or editing the footage coming out of this camera. Please read the “cons” again and let me know what is “biased” here. The 7D mII is “very strait forward typical Canon camera”. True, it does not have the 4K resolution the NX1 has but overall handling of footage is much easier. As a 5DmII owner I hope you will have the chance to actually try the NX1 and I’ll be more then happy… Read more »

Max Yuryev
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I’m currently testing the NX1 and happy overall with their first take on a semi-pro camera. Yes there are downsides but you seem biased. One issue everyone still has is no native h.265 support so its hard to tell what image will look like when we don’t have to transcode. You also didn’t mention what you transcoded to, I know you mentioned Samsung’s software but is that h.264? If so I think you’d be better off going with prores for testing as your going from one really compressed cidec to another. I’m using wondershare and transcoding to prores LT. The… Read more »

Max Yuryev
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Not sure why my comment came out in one big chunk as well as having forward slashes inserted.. Looks like a big mess wish I could edit it!

Johnnie Behiri
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Max

Thanks for sharing the info. Appreciated especially since you own the camera.
Just a quick question. Are you able to convert Samsung’s 120fps footage?

Thanks

Johnnie

Nougat T
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Nougat T

Max- Anxiously awaiting your review. Hopefully you will take more time to test different settings to get the most out of the NX1 and share your workflow and results. I’m sure it can’t be nearly as bad as this review makes it. Thanks!

 Oman Mirzaie
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can you use an external recorder / monitor like Black Magic video assist to record & transcode h265 footage to apple pro rez 422 1080p? This would be ideal as you could record 4k internally in an efficient h265 wrapper for storage and have the ready to edit pro rez footage on sd card in recorder/monitor?

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This is the second review today which is not raving about Samsung. After watching Jordan’s comments on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1flm65f2Gy8&t=19m27s reading your excellent summary was very informative. With all my respect to Panasonic and Samsung, the only role I can see for them is to push Sony and Canon, the leaders in this business to come out with more feature-full cameras at more competitive prices.

Nougat
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This is an incredibly harsh review where even items that would seemingly be positives are turned into negatives. For example: “Codec quality is good, but there’s something strange in that there is no noise at all. The image looks denoised and slightly unnatural.” Really? You also note there is no log profile, but you know you can record as flat as you want to, because color, saturation, sharpness, contrast and hue are completely customizable in camera, unlike the GH4. Also, why would any respectable reviewer would use something like SmartRange+ and claim the DR sucks? Try again with that off… Read more »

Tudor Mitrea
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Dear Nougat, \”You also note there is no log profile, but you know you can record as flat as you want to, because color, saturation, sharpness, contrast and hue are completely customizable in camera, unlike the GH4.\” You can change those settings on a GH4. Please stop being inaccurate.

Nougat T
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Nougat T

My bad. I thought you could only choose from a handful of profiles on the GH4.

Nougat T
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Nougat T

I don’t understand the benefit of having a dedicated movie mode. Why can’t you just check your focus peaking and zebras in whatever mode you are shooting in (generally S or M) and press record when you’re ready to go. Certainly not worth all the fuss.

That being said, since Samsung went through the trouble of creating a movie preview mode, they should have included focus peaking and zebras in addition to the sound level monitoring. I’m sure this will be fixed with a firmware update.

Christian Schmeer
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I knew it. Next time Samsung

Ryan Tower
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Apples and Oranges. Movie \”LIKE CRAZY\” (shot on 7D!) sold to paramount for 4M, won sundance! Movies \”slumdog Millionaire and the HURT LOCKER\” both shot on 2K cams, both WON best picture! So basically when 5D gives the brand new [email protected] (which also has clean out for atomos 422, 220mbps etc) I am all ears. When the C100mk2 is reviewed positively I take notice…again read above. It really comes down to GOOD STORY/pro sound. These cams are all capable. BTW, thank you for your reviews CINEMA 5D. I\’m glad SAMSUNG has entered the rat race!

Tony Hernandez
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Cinemartin Cinec currently also support conversion from Samsung NX1 HEVC H265 to prores among other codecs. It also spots viceversa so conversion from / to H.265 Soon will be released next mejor version (4.0) with support for h265 10 bit up to 8K, a scaler up to 8K, LUT importer, a splitter, up to 8cpu cores, the new VP9 codec, custom presets, watch folders, etc .. Plus all the other features: Cineform and Red R3d support (up to Epic), CinemaDNG, etc ..

Matthew Perks
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As soon as I read \”The camera cripples itself in so many ways it becomes almost useless\” the reviewer lost credibility in my eyes. No camera can be considered useless unless it doesn\’t actually deliver an image at all. Each have their strengths and weaknesses – the reviewer failed to mention that this was (I presume) from a film-making perspective. Those of us who make online content find, for example, the lack of noise to be an extreme positive – it improves the image quality vastly later down the line when it gets compressed to, say, youtube, as the encoder… Read more »

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Reviewers job is to give opinion, otherwise only one review is required, if you not happy read technical spec. And rent one for weekend.

Anonymous
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I am interested in the comments made by Andrew Reid. It has to be said, it seems that Cinema5d don’t know what they are doing. Not a good day in the office for Sebastien Wober. EOSHD make good points and there does not seem to be an answer to any of them, other than the reality that Cinema5d have got it wrong. I have no skin in this game – I am not a Samsung user – but the criticisms of the camera seem illogical and unfounded to me. I am sure the camera has its flaws, but it seems… Read more »

Johnnie Behiri
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Big Man.

Criticising is extremely easy!. Try the camera and let me know your impressions. Happy to listen to your findings.

(and it’s a great day at the office for Sebastian Nino and I, it’s always is!).

Thanks.

Johnnie

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I don’t know, name or no, Big Man seems to have it right. So, the codec is a pain? It also allows for 4k in a camera with a bigger sensor. H.265 is a bit of a bet, but at the moment it looks inevitable. So, there’s more RS? The bigger the usable sensor, the bigger the RS. None of this should have been surprising. The zero-noise crit is just weird, as is the EVF stuff. I mean, I hate to say it, but tech changes, and even a “pro” has to relearn the tech for a new camera. Maybe… Read more »

John Reed
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ok following up on my post. have had the camera for a few months. correct about the review: the interface of this camera is not intuitive. many of the other issues have since been fixed in the firmware update (flat color profile, focus speed). one thing that i’d like to mention about the review: dialing the contrast -10 is a really really weird choice. that’s going to really kill the dynamic range, and if you have the camera and try it, you can in fact see in the histogram that it does just that. same with sharpness: -10 is not… Read more »

Aris Yalung
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you lost all credibility with that \”EVF is unusable\” comment alone.

Johnnie Behiri
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Aris.

Did you use the camera and if yes, did you notice the same amount of ghosting like we did in the EVF??

Thanks.

Johnnie

Eric
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What is EVF ghosting? Never heard of that. I review cameras for still, not video. EVF in NX1 is superb. Maybe it is different for video.

Alberto
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Looking at the comments I have to say this: Just have a look at the work of A. Reid. Do you see any professional shoots? Any advertising? Commercial work? Nope. Where do you want to get your info? From working DPs and directors or from someone that walks around Berlin doing mediocre random shots? I’m sure he knows what he is talking about to some extent. And probably has an interesting point view on many things as an amateur videographer. Im not trying to bash him but c’mon! Are we crazy? When you look at the reviews of someone like… Read more »

Jason Hamilton
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Jason Hamilton

Really? I just checked out SEBASTIAN WöBER’s work and I am not impressed at all. I find Reid’s work much more impressive and helpful.

Johnnie Behiri
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Jason,

Now it is my turn to “laugh out so loud”.

Don’t waste your time visiting our site. Move on.

Thanks!

Johnnie

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

I find this tactic of yours telling people who disagree with you to go away a bit amateurish. It appears you have this “my way or the highway” mentality. This is after you pointed out how much of a professional you are. Maybe putting out reviews for public consumption is not for you personally. I’d say this type of work requires objectivity and a bit of thick skin, which you seem to lack. I suppose you will tell me to move on as well, and I most certainly will if you do, but as a professional, you might want to… Read more »

Alberto Blanco
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Alberto Blanco

I dont think its a mater of taste. Objectively, Sebastian is doing real paid work. Like I said, clients, deadlines etc… Andrew is just walking about shooting cars and people in the street and making random edits with it. Which is totally fine by the way! And I understand that it can be interesting for people who do the same, aficionados prosumers or whatever.
Here they do serious lab tests and take the cameras on real professional scenarios to do their reviews. Do you see the difference?

John Zooloo
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Hey Alberto + Johnnie, now it’s my turn to laugh out loud. What have most of the most world-reknown photographers – from Henri Cartier-Bresson to Robert Frank to William Klein – done most of their photographic lives: “walk around the street” shooting stuff! As far as “corporate creditials” are concerned, well if your self-esteem and inspiration is measured by the degree of your sucess as prostitute, then fine, lock yourself in the studio and simply “network”. Or start a photo-review site. It is simply in bad taste to attack Andrew Reid in this way: sure his comment was rather very… Read more »

Alberto Blanco
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Alberto Blanco

Yes you are right. Those are big names in the history of photography. We’re talking filmaking here. Not photography, not art. But anyhow I did not want to pick on Andrew Reid, I just thought his long comment was kind of over the rails, and wanted to make a point about some of theese “authorities of the internet”not really having the professional experience to back all their rambles. But lets stop commenting on other peoples comments. Its kind of silly on all of us.

Andrew Reid
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“We’re talking filmmaking here. Not art”

Maybe you could try a little art with your filmmaking? Works miracles!

Alberto Blanco
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Alberto Blanco

I really do try, sometimes I succeed, many more I dont.
You can be the judge.

https://vimeo.com/albertoblanco

This site and yours are about technology, 95% of the time. So lets not get all snotty about the art of it all.

Kevin Luiz
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Im a working professional in the industry of commercial. I own and operate Capion Studio located in South Eastern Massachusetts and I have to say I would not have advanced at my craft if it wasn’t for the help of Andrew Reid. This isn’t a love letter or me coming to his aid but he genuinely educated myself and my staff via his blog. His works are artistic and to be frank, not my cup of tea, however I can respect his style and know the technical work he put into his shots. Personally I feel I am a pretty… Read more »

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

I too have been to Andrew’s page, and I find his review of this camera to be much more in line with my personal experience with it. I’m not sure how getting paid for your creativity somehow elevates it’s appeal. If I had read this without having done extensive research and ultimately purchasing this camera because of it, I’d be put off buying it. Having come here afterwards though, I’m more put off about this review than I am about the camera.

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Cannot believe that, provide links to comparison you made.

Branko Kosteski
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good review, thank you. i thought i saw pretty hard noise reduction in the screenshots from eoshd compared to the gh4. can you confirm that? also, can you post some original ungraded footage of the UHD? the footage from reid\’s site was totally useless because of the heavy (clumsy) grading and compression. i were looking at this camera as a b camera for my c100, and the 120fps seemed nice. but now i will have to wait and test it myself before deciding anything. btw, i have used gh4 for a music video and the 1080/60p was pretty decent. i… Read more »

German Polozov
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German

nx1 have a great 120fps, better than 96fps gh4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmxEIw-2E8c

Kevin
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Kevin

I laughed out loud at the clowns who get their panties all up in a bunch about a camera review. Who cares!?!? If it’s the right camera for you what do you care what anyone thinks? I bought a GH4 for a project because it fit into what I needed and there was no camera that would give me 4k at that price point. Did I read Cinema5D reviews? Of course, I do my research and there were many negatives posted about this camera. I still bought it because it was the right camera for this project and I liked… Read more »

 Scrub Go
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Great review! Just one question about the Samsung NX1. Will a future firmware update enable smooth, cinematic focus changes while shooting video? I recently purchased a Samsung NX1 and the 16-50mm f/2-2.8 lens to test. I believe the NX1 is a better camera than anything available from Canon. I am testing it with an eye to buying 3 bodies and several lenses. There is currently only one small problem preventing me from moving forward. I shoot TV commercials and stills for ad agencies. While shooting video with the NX1 camera in auto focus mode I touch the screen on the… Read more »

tecno
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Very good review, finally an unbiased one. Most nx1 reviews out till now are simply biased. This is a terrible camera and you can read the truth here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54853719

Dee
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Dee

That’s the truth? Are you serious? That tells us absolutely…..nothing. So the poster is happy with his Nikon. How does that show the NX1 is a terrible camera?

Kent Noble
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I have read your review and Andrew Reid\’s. One has an agenda that can be seen clearly in the name of the website. Calling Canon one of the companies that is pushing forward the boundaries of filmmaking is laughable.

Jesse Johannes Justus Korgemaa
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Clearly seen in the name of the website? You are referring to two companies that both reference Canon in their name! How can one be more \’obviously\’ biased than another?

Kepano
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Kepano

Touché!

Rob
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Rob

I liked the review since it sounds honest and opinionated. It seems like a lot of blogs soften the punch so as not to upset potential advertisers and companies supplying review copies. I actually think that there’s a Panasonic fanboy troll on here with a chip on his shoulder that’s still stewing over a past review. He’s creating new accounts to support his complaining. Same syntax and word usage. That’s unfortunate since it makes the comment section look contentious.

Tony Hernandez
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Hi, H.265 algorithms does not introduce noise. Noise comes from the sensor and may be aliviated based on the post processing algorithm (RAW but not H.265). Sebastian and Johnnie, Can you give me your emails, can you send me an email ?

Shiney Shiney
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I don\’t think the log profile came out with the G4 I think it was added to a firmware update? So fingers crossed they may update the NX1. This Review came across as very negative even the plus points seemed to be turned into negatives. Im taking your review with a pinch of salt as I tend to way up all the reviews I come across and this was the first one Ive come across that hated the camera. Im not been but off getting this camera but Im hoping to get it soon but mite just wait for the… Read more »

Kenne Johnston
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cplbNmft74k&app=desktop

Some of these points were hit on this talk also

Nougat T
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Nougat T

Did you watch the video portion of that review? They absolutely LOVED the NX1 for video. They said the 4K footage resolved more detail and performed better in low light than their $30,000 Red (although the NX1 fared worse in dynamic range) and the 1080p60 footage was some of the best they had ever seen. A far cry from “totally unusable” as this review would lead you to believe.

Nino Leitner
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It’s beyond me why some internet commenters are so nasty. Happy that Sebastian takes a stand in his Samsung NX1 review. People need to accept that we all are professionals with different approaches. That’s what makes Cinema5D so unique. It’s actually a benefit that each one of us might find different things about a tool good or bad. Because there isn’t just one truth about anything. It’s all a matter of perspective. The Lab Test was created to introduce as much objectivity as possible to reviews, because it allows us to compare cameras on a very objective level. Adding personal… Read more »

Andrew Jones
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I personally found the review to be interesting and informative. I think that most people have missed the boat with the very positive message that Samsung have embarked on adding video functionality. It seems that from the review that they are very close to being there, but need to get a lot of basics (if we can call it that) right first.

I think it is very important that manufacturers get honest and sometimes critical feedback like this. How else will they know what the end user really thinks? Cinema 5d, please continue with what you are doing.

Johnnie Behiri
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Thank you Andrew!

Johnnie

Therry Motion
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Don’t listen to ‘those’ comments. It’s as nasty as the comments on youtube video. People like to read and see what they want to read and see.

David Anderegg
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So far I am very pleased with both the video and especially the photo quality I get out of my NX-1. The RAW images are amazing, much better than the GH4; which I found to be quite grainy. I agree the H.265 codec is a bugger to deal with. Of all the conversion tools I’ve tested and used so far I like DVDFab the best. My complaint with Wondershare is that you can’t choose the bitrate you want; you have to choose one of their presets. Whereas with DVDFab you can choose the exact bitrate you want. Anyone else use… Read more »

David Anderegg
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Just a quick follow up to my conversion software. It’s official, DVDFab does the best conversion with the highest quality (the app with the little monkey head as their logo). Plus you can pick the bitrate which you can’t do with Samsungs Movie Converter. Though you can choose bitrate with Wondershare you are limited to 30000 kbps. Samsungs conversion is the 2nd highest quality and Wondershare comes in 3rd. However, wondershare was the fastest. DVDfab came in the 2nd fastest and Samsung was the slowest.

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In response to a question I asked in another forum when I discovered that Wondershare does not work correctly (at the moment) with its “4K” setting in the PC version, someone suggested this site: http://mydiyworld.net/?p=1805. The software is free and works well once you figure out that using lower numbers for the quality level results in less compression.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You don’t even mention is you were recording to HDMI output or to the in camera card? How are we too take you serious?

Robert
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Robert

I picked up one of these and so I thought I’d chime in. Basically it’s a nice 4K and stills camera. The 4K looks good. What was disappointing was the slo-mo. It does do 120 fps but the 1080 as mentioned looks creamy and processed and you do see the aliasing where power lines etc look great in 4K. The lens was another issue. I got the 16-50 f/2-2.8 and it’s a nice lens but focus doesn’t remain constant as you zoom which is the usual standard for video lenses. Normally you zoom in focus and then zoom out but… Read more »

Ed David
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I would love to see the chip chart DPX files – here’s a website by cinematographers that does proper tests and shows all the charts – http://www.cinematography.net/

Ed David
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In my super informal tests – I found ISO 400 to give the most usable dynamic range for highlights and shadows. I think you need to retest. All cameras have an “optimal” dynamic range – that gives the most shadow and highlight detail. I think you should consider putting up more charts to back your data as well. Cinematography.net is a good example of how to post DPX files or TIFF files to have back up findings and data. Without this, cinema5d can not be taken with professionalism in handling reviews. But of course I appreciate this review very much.

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I have thoroughly enjoyed this critical review, I have to say I’ve learned alot from the nit picking comments that followed it, I thouroughly enjoyed the exchange of insults too but am I glad I am not a pro photographer, talk about “handbags at ten paces” ! I guess it’s down to the clash of technology and Art, great fun, thanks :-)

Shiney Shiney
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Are you going to test again when the new firmware comes out. http://www.eoshd.com/2015/01/enormous-samsung-nx1-firmware-update-including-log-gamma/

Anonymous
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Anonymous

i’m trying to use an adapter with my new samsung nx1 but it alway says “no lens” and i cant take any pix or shoot video.
any ideas how to fix that?

thx
phil

Eric Tastad
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Eric Tastad

No lens message is from a bad adapter, there is a physical pin in the mount that needs to be depressed by the adapter mounting flange. I would send it back and get a different adapter.

matt
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This is a very strange review. First of all, many zoom lenses don’t perform well at their longest focal length, and such is the case with Samsung’s 16-50mm F2/2.8. I saw a review that mentions that the sharpness of the lens drops noticeably at 50mm, but that just happens to be only the focal length these guys tested the camera with. Come on, guys. About the rolling shutter, it looks like the camera has very good rolling shutter in 1080p, but they don’t mention it. The rolling shutter numbers also don’t look right. Most other tests have GH4 4K at… Read more »

Vincent Valent
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Vincent Valent

My first observations about the camera and this review :
Before the release of the firmwares 1.10 and 1.20 i almost fully agreed with the review :
Bad 4kdci video, bad HD video, not very good dynamic range but fortunately the new firmwares have improved all these features.
But the main problem isn’t gone : Noise Reduction.
In low light or in dark aera of the image, some details are washed away, the GH4 retain really more details.
We really NEED control over the noise reduction for low light ISO.

Andrew Pledger
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Dude, DXO just released their tests for the NX1 and the dynamic range peaked at 13.1 Ev rather than staying at 10.1 across the board as stated by your ‘tests’. Out of interest how did you reach your conclusion of 10.1? Because it seems like a number pulled from thin air.

Attila Bakos
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Attila Bakos

Photo dynamic range is not the same as video dynamic range. Video DR of the NX1 is somewhere between 10-11 stops. The sensor is capable of more, maybe Samsung will give us a true log profile in the future.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Can you explain that? Digital video is nothing more than a series of still images. Those images are captured by the same sensor. Why would DR be any different?

Attila Bakos
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Attila Bakos

I’m not sure about all the factors affecting video DR, but here’s one:
The NX1 can’t save 14bit raw video. Instead you get 8bit heavily compressed H265 with a picture profile baked into the image, so you don’t get all the sensor data. In general the flatter this profile is the more DR you have. The flattest profile of the NX1 is Gamma DR, it should give you about 10-11 stops, that’s why many of us would be glad if Samsung implemented a true log profile.

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Matthew Hartman

I use both the NX1 and Canon 5DM3. At work we have a brand new RED Phantom coupled with Canon L glass. So I’m not simply speaking out of the wrong orrafice here. If you truly want to talk about mushy 1080 video look no further then the Canon 5DM3. Compared to the recent stuff on the camera scene its rather embarrasing for Canon I’d measure. Of course, the RED takes both the Canon and NX1. But comes at a serious cost to get that. The differences really only matter to people in the business. Audiences are not that decerning… Read more »

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Well said.

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Matthew Hartman

Thanks Todd. I think what this really comes down to is that Samsung has been perceived “laughable” in the past by the “pros” that its just hard for some to admit to themselves that it’s actually a player in the current market. Personally, I’m tired of hearing about Canon this, Nikon that, as if it’s the only legit platform for pros. It’s built up a sense of snobbery over the years towards other brands. The barrier of entry is relatively high and I guess that made some feel special. Always made me just feel poorer. Well, guess what folks, the… Read more »

Ron Soderlund
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I think you are very close to the truth there. I also think the 5d crew can anticipate more bad news in the near future. IF Samsung are serious about manufacturing a premium pro quality camera, well then they will. We must not forget that both Nikon and Canon together compared to Samsung is like a coffee shop vs General Electric. Needed resources will be there and brain-power can be purchased.. I understand that it can be difficult To accept a new kid on the block, particularly a kid who manufactures micro wave ovens and electric toothbrushes. I have e… Read more »

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Matthew Hartman

Spot on Ron. “I understand that it can be difficult To accept a new kid on the block, particularly a kid who manufactures micro wave ovens and electric toothbrushes.” Yes, it sounds silly to think that a manufacturer that makes the items above could make a viable pro-level camera. And that could possibly be true for a lot of companies out there. However, in Samsung’s case, they have the money and R&D infrastructure to be a very strong force in this space. It’s not a matter of money, or even finding talent. It’s just a matter of will, and then… Read more »

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Big laugh Hartman , this is future, buy now or buy later. Then buy later when good. This topic is not about skill of photographer, it is about review of camera. NX1 has big drawbacks, damage to busy workflow due to transcode issue (buy later), short flange distance precludes speedbooster ever, colours burnt in (buy later), poor ISO performance (buy later), poor range and expensive lens collection ( buy later), use of unsupported codec is what you mean by progressive? (Buy later) . Your advice is buy phone and develop better skill. Working in shop with many cameras does not… Read more »

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Why does it need a speedbooster, it’s not a small m43 sensor. It’s super 35 which is the preferred size sensor for cinema. Do you edit footage straight out of the camera? Most comparable cameras do not record to an edit friendly codec so transcoding was being done already. Fast glass and lighting solve any ISO deficiencies, and the ISO is quite sufficient. Expensive lenses? Seriously? How much do cinema lenses cost? Adapters are available for just about any lens you choose to use. Unsupported codec? But more efficient and it’s a matter of time before it’s supported by everything.… Read more »

Ron Soderlund
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Agree with you Todd A camera boby is just a single part of a system. I personally believe in the system which means I might invest a lot of money in lenses, etc. – Why not invest in the NX1 which is still, for my needs, the best money can get in the price range, still very comfortable with the knowledge that the next generation will be even better. I am pretty convinced that if you changed the Samsung label to Canon the test results would have been even greater..and like Todd mentioned we see continuously new firmware updates, which… Read more »

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Todd, you must have a small gun, just kidding, Zlatan knows best, should stop talking loud and listen. NX s glass is below average and expensive, only two of them. Anyway only fools use NX glass. Many men have Canon or Nikon glass of super qualitette, if the booster would fit, then you get good fullframe, increase speed and big rangeof glass. Anyways listen up, I buy NX1, I used for 3 months, I sell. Many better Cameras and glass, if NX1 is good in the future, buy in future. By the way, if your poor, can buy good Cinema… Read more »

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Matthew Hartman

Zlatan, you sold your NX1 after only 3 months of use? Ah ok. I see what we’re dealing with here. You’re one of those. Sigh. Look, the fact is 9 out of 10 reviews on this camera are extremely positive. And I think that speaks volumes. Perhaps what you see as flaws, others see as strengths? Do you honestly and truly think that H.265 won’t be a standard in the very near future? Has the history of H.264 not taught you anything? I think it’s odd that some folks complain about transcoding when that’s been a process that has been… Read more »

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

You make too many assumptions, I use Sony A7 and Panasonic GH4’s and others, no longer Canon, I gave NX1 a good and comprehensive on job review, when you say one of those, do you mean somebody who thoroughly tests equipment before deciding on investment… Yes I am, I live today not in future. I have many Canon lenses, you don’t need L glass to compete with NX S lens, cheap Canikon competes well, I experience many issues with ISO stability, over heating, blocking issues, impossible to get good colour grades quickly but worst problem is noise at low ISO,… Read more »

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Matthew Hartman

“You make too many assumptions, I use Sony A7 and Panasonic GH4’s and others, no longer Canon, I gave NX1 a good and comprehensive on job review, when you say one of those, do you mean somebody who thoroughly tests equipment before deciding on investment…” You’re 100% right. I made some assumptions that you were a Canon/Nikon snob. It’s an automatic defense for me because by far the people that put the NX1 down are Canon/Nikon snobs. Then again, they put everyone else down too. I apologize for the assumptions. To clarify what I meant about “One of those” was… Read more »

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Good balanced reply, unlike Gunn. My opinion is honest, noise is not always bad, Samsung noise is irregular and begins low, very difficult to remove and leave clean, GH4 very easy. Lighting is good in some scenes not others, I am not expert (I work post production, never taken a professional image in my life), I can make better end product with GH4 data. Samsung APS-C is not advantage, big heavy glass. Take S 16-50mm, huge, not even fixed aperture and CA bad for this price, my half the price Tron 24-70mm is better all round, this is honest opinion… Read more »

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

” I am not expert “. You don’t say.

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

I do say, you should not kid yourselve either. I anyway don’t believe you change a 5D3 for NX1 just like I don’t change my Mercedes for Hyundai unless I become mental illness :-)

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Well, I guess because YOU don’t believe it, it must not be so. See if this helps you understand why I did what I did. http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-versus-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-GH4-versus-Samsung-NX1___795_943_976

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Ha ha, stop my stomach hurts, Zlatan hopes you didn’t use DXO score to sell 5d3 to buy NX1, look up Tony Northrup guide on why not to do that ! Its like Zlatan asking metallurgist whether to buy Aston Martin or Ferarri. But to get real, I know it’s embarrassing to make biggest mistake but I let you down easy. NX1 not complete waste of money, I repeat (again) it is not as good as others that is all, and not that cheap anyways for what you are getting, as they say not biggest bangs for bucks. You can… Read more »

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Matthew Hartman

You do know that the NX1 is Tony Northrup’s favorite mirrorless right? The guy is constantly raving about it on his show. Zlatan, it’s very difficult to take what you say about the NX1 with any seriousness if you don’t even shoot with it. Color correction/grading is half the equation. How are we sure your videographers are skilled enough with lighting principles? Or if they’re skilled enough in general? Tony Northrup puts the NX1 above the GH4 for ISO performance. But because Zlatan does not, we should trust you? A guy that doesn’t even use the camera? Dude, common, stop… Read more »

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Tony is wedding photographer, very good Teacher but does not work in post production on large gig. I remind you, I give opinion not instructions, naturally I see things from a different viewpoint. I don’t choose Camera operators I work with. That is a shame for my employers but that is life. Tony make his first mistake, noise is ugly on NX1, if this is what you mean by ISO performance. I guess he does not use NX1, but I don’t know him, I trust what you say until I know different.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

My Momma warned about people who speak of themselves in the third person. Didn’t Zlatan say Zlatan doesn’t shoot anything? Gunn make photo and makes movies. Gunn shoots. Gunn Edits. Gunn special effects. Gunn does this all the time. 5D3 great camera. Good for low light and shallow dof. That’s it. NX1 does so much more. 120fps. 15fps. 4k. Best autofocus Gunn ever seen. Use about anything as remote control and monitoring. Don’t miss 5D3. Still use Canon glass. Gunn love firmware updates. NX1 keeps getting better. 5D3 does not. Ok enough with the caveman talking. Zlatan go find another… Read more »

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Your Momma probably only speaks English, it’s normal in other languages, I speak five languages, when I am tired I get lazy especially when I write from a device. Please don’t take it personal, rather than look for good or bad reviews, try to find people who use Samsung for serious work, maybe this will change but now, I know nobody. I joke with you, you are happy with your choice, I am happy for you, I have a good heart.

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Matthew Hartman

Guys, let’s leave eachother’s mothers out of this. There’s no need to go to that level over a camera.

Zlatan, 5 languages huh? I’m legitimately impressed. That’s no easy task.

I think this all comes down to this. Some like the NX1. I myself am one of those people. Some, simply do not. And for me, that’s okay.

I get a little defensive when people make claims that I know from experience are not true. However, I’m not willing to berate the point in which it becomes a camera over another human being.

Kudos to all!

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Ok Zlatan, listen up. I buy 5d mark 2. I sell. I buy 5D mark 3. I sell. I buy NX1. I keep. Glass just as good. Don’t want to see size of my gun.

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Matthew Hartman

You’re not the only person to go from Canon to the NX1.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

I still have my 70D since both are APS-C and a few of my Canon lenses. I also have adapters for the NX1 to use just about every kind of lens out there except PL.

Fozzy Mantague
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Fozzy Mantague

Zlatan, are you the same Zlatan B that was PPS on Man of Hope?

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

Ha ha, no Fozzy, I work for my money, I did consulting Ed, but I only do Edit and Color, old big shots want Ed or Color, crazy, this is the digital world now, they don’t listen to Zlatan.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

I’m curious oh great one who doesn’t use cameras. If someone brings you footage form a 5D3, do you edit it as is or convert it to prores?

Zlatan Bogdanski
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Zlatan Bogdanski

I use cameras daily, mostly LX100, I don’t use them professionally. Nobody ever brings, but when I test it would be 5d3 raw magic – dng – davinici-Apple pro res – FCPx. Normally I go to client, normally they use Avid, has problems but everybody wants it. I am back at work now if you need help I review at end of my day. I don’t think you care for my advices !

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Do you really think the workflow you just mentioned is simpler than transcoding H.265? That pretty much kills the whole takes too long argument.

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Matthew Hartman

But wait Todd, it’s from the 5DM3, so it makes it all ok. No one has the time to wait for Samsung and it’s stupid true cinema 4k. Right? I mean, who is Samsung anyway? Pffft. Sometimes I’m so fed up with the people in this industry. Once they get a little credit under their name they become total pretentious gearheads. This has happened to many colleagues of mine as well. It reminds me of the fanboyism you see in the smartphone industry. It’s just all ridiculous how some people get their identity all wrapped up in a product as… Read more »

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Well I put my money where my mouth was. I’m into the NX1 for the long haul. The 5D3 was a great camera, but not keeping up with what I want to do. If even 25% of reviews agreed with these guys, I’d be concerned. Not even close. Outside of this page, it is the greatest innovation seen in years for a camera at this level. I only stick around because I like to debate.

Fozzy Mantague
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Fozzy Mantague

Yes it does of course slow the workflow down, I think you guys should form an NX1 appreciation society. Forums like these are for genuinely debating, I love this camera but he is right in what he says, your rude and silly comments are adding nothing to that. You have made a choice that is good enough for your needs and don’t want to hear any criticisms, he said it was a good camera but that there are better in his opinion. I am amazed Zlatan wastes his time discussing his thoughts with you at all, if I were as… Read more »

Ron Soderlund
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Fozzy – What I and most likely Matthew as well are arguing about is the fact that Zlatan’s critics doesn’t make sense. He gives the impression to turn down the NX1, not because it is necessarily a bad camera but a not approved brand. I have owned Eos mk2, mk3 A7, A7R, A7S and a bunch of other cameras. For my needs the NX1 is superior. Perhaps if I planned to shoot Gone with the wind Part 2 I would have selected another camera, but for my particular semi-pro needs the NX1 is extremely suitable, especially combining the IQ video… Read more »

Fozzy Mantague
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Fozzy Mantague

Apart from making a few not well received jokes, did he not say it was a good camera, but that there were better about “in his opinion”, he stressed this many times. I don’t think he is against Samsung at all, in fact he specifically states he doesn’t care who makes his camera, he checked it out, and decided to go Sony but he doesn’t defend Sony like its a blood relative, not on this forum anyway. But his criticisms do make sense, you can make similar criticisms about most cameras mind you, and I am sure he would. The… Read more »

Charles Morse
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Charles Morse

I have to agree Fozzy, disgraceful behaviour. Forums are for exchanging views and opinions, not closing people down who disagree, what is this, Soviet Russia?

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

You guys are hilarious coming in on the tail end and making judgements. Start at the top, then judge.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

A legend you say….Hmmm I should be so honored.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

BTW, there already is an NX1 appreciation society. It’s called the rest of the camera world.

Fozzy Mantague
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Fozzy Mantague

Give it a rest Todd, being a prize pillock won’t win you any awards whatever camera you buy.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Uh Fozzy , is it? I suggest you go back and read how all of this started before you start defending or castigating anyone. We were having a pretty reserved debate before your buddy chimed in with his “jokes”. Didn’t sound at all like jokes to me. This is the same guy that said “the GH4 is far better all round.” Really? Find a review that agrees with that? You call US rude? That’s funny. He basically trashed the NX1 the entire thread but you want to come riding in here like a white knight to the defense of a… Read more »

Fozzy Mantague
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Fozzy Mantague

Oh dear, yes anything you say old chap.

Charles Morse
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Charles Morse

Oh I say, Quod erat demonstrandum I believe.

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Matthew Hartman

I’m happy that Zlatan is accomplished. At work, I rub elbows with many whom are extremely accomplished, but that’s not really the point. The point is I know a solid camera when I see one. Some of Zlatan’s (and others) assessments don’t add up to my experiences and the many experiences of others that own and appreciate this camera. The way it was portrayed makes it sound completely unuseable, and that to me sounds very pompous and discriminatory, let alone outright bogus. I’m still sticking around to read the re-review after the firmware upgrades. I’m starting to feel like that’s… Read more »

Charles Morse
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Charles Morse

I think we know where you stand Matthew. I simply don’t know anybody who seriously uses the NX1 apart from reviewers, not one, even well known reviewers don’t use it after they’ve reviewed it. To be honest, after the initial furore last year, I don’t use mine much either. The GH4 is simply the workhorse of this part of the industry. Most people that use this site, if they use mirrorless or DSLR at all, will have a number of cameras, but once your heavily invested in lenses, you are to some extent stuck with it. A thing about companies… Read more »

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Matthew Hartman

My gosh, a simple youtube search would yield plenty of examples. Plenty of working professionals, companies like B&H, common reviewers, example footage, etc., etc. With exception of this blog, I have rarely seen a negative review about the NX1. Either you’re in denial, or just plain lazy and indiffetent. However, I’ve seen plenty of negative reviews on the GH4. I’m not opposed to people pointing out flaws or improvements, I’m actually on that band wagon myself. Hey, all cameras have their flaws and could always be improved upon. But to say the camera is basically unuseable is just a bunch… Read more »

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Save your breath bro, there is clearly an agenda here. I’ve given up. Don’t throw rope to people standing on chairs…

Charles Morse
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Charles Morse

These sites are for wasting your breath on these topics, you seem to want to control what people say and think.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

Absolutely not. Read what I said. Do the research. 1+1 does not equal 2 here.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

I didn’t come here to be insulting, but I will respond to it. If you really care look at how it started. If not…

Charles Morse
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Charles Morse

1) “a simple youtube search would yield plenty of examples.” I said I don’t know one person (and I know a lot of real ones) , not some virtual people off the internet. 2) “I have rarely seen a negative review about the NX1. Either you’re in denial”, in denial of what, even Zlatan said it was a good camera, I think it is a good camera, we say at the moment there are better. 3) “But to say the camera is basically unuseable”, who said this ? 4) “majority of people say the opposite”, opposite of what, did you… Read more »

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

I’m too tired to address all of this especially since it’s not directed to me, but “zero adapters”? I think I have 7 adapters for the NX1, some for old vintage glass.

Todd Gunn
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Todd Gunn

My bad, I missed the “can talk to the camera” part. I said I was tired…

Ron Soderlund
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My Sony A7S and Canon glas talked now and then through Metabones adapter. Sometimes focus, sometimes IS and the happy days both worked. Anyone accepting this has no idea what professional use is..This thread is getting a life of its own. Let us all agree, a good videographer kills opposition with an NX1- Same if he got a GH4 – 4K has come to stay which puts the Canon Mk2, 3 in the hall of fame together with the DC3. A milestone in the development of a product, but badly outdated today.

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Matthew Hartman

Yeah, I’m with Todd. This is pointless. It’s my fault for getting swept up in this utter silliness. I’ve pushed points, conceded others and have absolutely nothing to show for it except for wasted time and energy. Some of the claims here are just blantantly false or outdated. We’ll just leave it at that.

At any rate, happy shooting all. See you on the flip.

Fozzy Mantague
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Fozzy Mantague

Its never pointless, and never a waste of time. You put a good comprehensive list of thoughts together Matthew, and Charles has addressed each point to the best of his knowledge, we’ve all hopefully learned something from that. As Tony Benn (British Parliamentarian) once said of the houses of parliament, “There is no right or wrong, just a forum for debate”, and that’s what we’re doing here. In my view, better to be passionate about your work, than not care one way or the other !

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The authors are obviously offended by comments on this review, but I think the comments are justified. The settings used to do the testing severely handicapped the camera, making it an unfair comparison as noted by many people. Even so, many other reviews find this camera producing similar or better video than any competitor, so the methods and motives are suspect, regardless of the methodology. The fact that the error has been pointed out many times and there is no action to correct it or qualify the review stating the error or limitations of the methods of the tesing are… Read more »

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Matthew Hartman

“In my observation Samsung tried something bold with the NX1, and they should get credit for that, but they couldn’t quite achieve something that I would call usable. There are some major issues with this camera and I would not recommend it for video shooting (yet)” When the above is your opening statement it pretty much sums up how these guys feel about the NX1. They’re not alone. I’ve seen other popular camera tech reviewers/channels do a similar thing. They reviewed the NX1 pre the latest couple firmware updates and never bothered to update their reviews after the firmware, which… Read more »

Fozzy Mantague
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Fozzy Mantague

This is not spin in Europe. Those of us based in europe need to know that Samsung are pulling out of the european market before making a buying decision. In the US and elsewhere, Samsung Cameras may still be viable and you need to make your own decision on that, but stock has gone now in Europe, thats the reality.

Here is Samsung official statement to EOSHD an influential blog.

http://www.eoshd.com/2015/11/official-statement-samsung-withdraws-from-camera-market-in-germany/#prettyPhoto

David Anderegg
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Ok, I just updated to Premiere Pro CC 2015.1, and I am absolutely loving it! No more transcoding using RockyMountains Movie Converter. The best part of all the speculation behind the Samsung NX cameras is that the equipment is going down in cost. For a true “run-in-gun” hybrid camera with fast video auto-focus, this is the right camera!